Nothing, my long-term plan is to become whale by myself (if Hive survives that long).
Just joking, I have no clue what to do about it and how to change this oligarchy. But to stomp on small fish can´t be the solution.
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Who is stomping on the small fish?
Again, please provide a response with name/names.
Let me help you with answering: you can’t come up with names. You just like to make sensational empty comments.
PS. I just checked your account, you are nearly a whale yourself. Generally, roughly 500K HP is considered a whale. For all practical purposes you are one.
So, are you talking about yourself when you are whale bashing? :)
I refer to this very post where @thehivekeepers is blaming a user, @curamax, clear enough?
Anyway, I am tired of this conversation, have a nice weekend.
PS: Nowadays you need 600K for being a whale.
Neither of them is a whale:)
So no whale is doing any “stomping”.
Even it the definition is 600K I say you are rather close to it. So my point stands.
What I always get with conversations with you is the following facts:
You have certain likes and dislikes as you should. I have them too. However, if you want to influence your likes or dislikes to others, you can’t just “point to a problem”. You also have to provide a solution.
I had problems with lazy curation. I provided a solution with KE. It is widely used now. How it is used I have no control over it but it is definitely a solution. I am not saying it, community is saying it and adopting it.
So if you have a problem with something
You should propose a solution
Also hope people adopt and implement your solution
You have a good weekend too!
I appreciate your efforts on the lazy curation problem, and I use the KE as a rough guidance.
However I don´t have a solution for the oligarchy problem. We see this also in the real economy, there is a tendency of companies to become larger and larger, like how Amazon started and where they are right now. Same with the Hive accumulation, a huge share of it is unfortunately concentrated among 10 or so super large accounts (plus their alts), they control who is the top 20 and the DHF as well.
This is a very legitimate comment and concern. I am glad that by simple conversation that we have started from very different sides, we arrived at the same place of agreement.
This is why it is always good to have an extended conversation.
One small side note: the person who helped me the most in providing me with the data and creating all the tools for free is @beaker007 . Someone I called an extractor in a comment and he responded with data :)
Someone I consider one of the best friends I made here on this platform! It’s funny how this goes. We have worked tens of hours together in conversations and we created 4-5 different websites together. In fact beaker did all the work, I only provided the ideas and data visualization.
My point in sharing this is arguments are often good if both sides are honest. Lot of good things comes out of that.
Likewise, @azircon—it's funny how things can come together like that. And you're absolutely right: honesty is key in any meaningful discussion.
I’ve seen a lot of conversations around this topic lately—some more constructive than others. But when people are willing to listen and consider different perspectives, even tough discussions can lead to something positive.
At the end of the day, most of us want a sustainable Hive ecosystem. That means we need to keep calling out abuse—both intentional (which definitely needs to be stopped) and unintentional. And that's the tricky part: KE is just one metric, and like any metric, it just one piece of the puzzle.
For the intentional bad actors, there’s no room for them. For the unintentional ones, we should aim to educate. I put myself in that second group at one point—I listened, I learned, I adapted. These days, thanks to working with the data, I can see both sides more clearly. And that’s one of the great things about blockchain: the data is always there. Though we must always be cautious with how we interpret it.
Lastly, I want to give a shoutout to the others who are also digging into this data. It’s not always easy, and they don’t always get the appreciation they deserve. In fact, they often get hit with criticism. But their work matters. Just wanted to share my thoughts on that.