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RE: Follow Friday: Make it Snappy

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It wants to be all things to all people but is determined to control users

You still speak of Hive as if it were one thing. There are many differing opinions on what it should be, but it doesn't have to be just one. It's a platform, like Linux, that people are free to build on.

I also don't think that people are trying to kill off the 'krill'. There are some bullies, but that's a cost of the freedom to do what you want.

Sounds a bit like the Tories. 🤣

Few things are that bad.

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Aye? What part of "It wants to be all things to all people" did you not understand?

I wouldn't have said there were bullies, but there are a group of accounts with a vested interest in ensuring the rewards pool is not drained too much, thus keeping the value of Hive high, especially those who have invested 𝘧𝘪𝘢𝘵. Now, you may argue that they are investing in the platform, but I know [in business] most investors have long-term goals that are about maximising the return.

As I've said, 'it' is not one thing. Leo, peakd, Splinterlands, blocktrades etc may have different visions. They all have stake in the game and then there are individuals who either got in early and/or invested a lot. Some of those are a bit rogue and they don't answer to anyone.

There's a mix of ideology and 'greed' involved, as in most human endeavours. I think it's an interesting experiment. I've put money in and of course I'd like a return, but I'm not relying on it. I'm having fun anyway.

I'll keep using it, but I have no genuine interest in it. I know you, and I disagree on this, but I honestly see it as a quasi-pyramid scheme whereby those above encourage those below to invest time, resources, and, in some cases, money with the promise of moving up the food chain. Curation is a prime example. Curate my work so more people see it, bringing in more votes for me, and I'll throw you some rewards based on your level and resources.

The richer you are on Hive, the more you earn. But it's tough to get richer when you've got feck all, which is why people resort to plagiarism etc. and why the top two tiers make every effort to control the bottom rung.

You have the Tory mindset that everything has to be for personal gain ;) You then make sweeping generalisations about what goes on. I do think it's right that plagiarism should not get rewarded, regardless of who does it. I don't see that honest posters are getting DVs unless there's some personal disagreement involved. You will get some trolls who like to mess with people, but they are the minority.

Do you think investors should not be rewarded? Is it different to buying shares? I see it as better than some other platforms where you need a big following before you make a cent and you can be deplatformed for minor offences.

Hive is not directly comparable with old-school finance. I know your crowd from the FOSS world are not here and some are very dismissive of any sort of cryptocurrency, but others are building things here.

Meh, you and your "Genralisations." You do know that statement isn't a debate winner, don't you?

I also disagree with plagiarism. I'm not sure I agree with competitions either. Remember, the house always wins. As for investors being rewarded, sure, of course, I agree with that, but if I buy shares on the stock exchange or take out an ISA, fellow investors don't spend their time barring opportunities to earn interest or look for ways to wipe out my stake.

So I've spoken to a few people, and the primary perception is: "It's dodgy" I'm not the only one among my peers who think it's a pyramid scheme. Those at the bottom work extremely hard for tiny rewards, while whales reap big rewards because of all that activity down in the bowels of the Galley, with krill rowing like buggery-bollocks inflating their stake, thus improving their reward level. Hive is like Bitcoin mining the more activity the more Satoshi is created.

I agree that it's not a Ponzi scheme, but it's definitely not a level playing field, which is why there are few FOSS people on Hive.

We'll never agree on this, which is fine. You're just as entitled to your view as I am, and I, for one, understand that.

"Hans, are we the baddies?" 😜

Well you obvious still don't 'get it'. Although I've put money in that's probably under 20% of my account value and all the rest was earned, so whilst you have been complaining about how small accounts can't get anywhere I've been building mine up. Hundreds of others have got to orca level and I bet many never bought any $HIVE.

Your complaint seem no different from saying us proles will never get rich whilst the CEO of megacorp gets $50m/year. Also not a level playing field. We can still make a living and possibly enjoy life.

As I have said many times, Hive gives people opportunities to earn that they might not have otherwise. It's up to them how they do that, but if they try to cheat the system then others can object. It's not about 'keeping the krill down', whatever you may think.

It's not a ponzi or pyramid scheme according to the definitions of those as it doesn't just rely on people putting money in.

We may not agree, but you have to accept that you do not have the full picture and may be wrong. Yes, that is possible.

Love and peace.

Oh yes, I do, but I have no intention of playing Hive Panto with you. I've far better things to be doing. #Hugs

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