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RE: Vigilante.tv | All payouts for posts now declined

in #hive3 years ago (edited)

Mainly some see it as trying to make money off other creators' content. That is not the intention.

@kencode specifically said that was in fact the intention. He clearly said in no uncertain terms that there is nothing wrong with Jeff making money off other people's work. If it wasn't for downvotes, it would have continued forever I suspect.

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Some video creators might not ever want to get a Hive account and that's fine.

  1. Jeff is providing those video creators a valuable service so at some point in the future I'm sure he intends to earn a return on that investment by helping them. If I was hosting content for people, I would too.
  2. The expense of hosting video is insanely expensive (usually thousands of dollars) so of course ROI would be welcome.
  3. Those Creators are probably very happy to have another site promoting their work. So, like Youtube, making money off other people's work is justified imo and probably appreciated by them too.

Youtube barrages you with ads, whereas Vigilante.tv might someday earn a few Hive coins for providing the Creators with hosting service. Youtube needs this kind of competition imo.

Jeff is providing those video creators a valuable service so at some point in the future I'm sure he intends to earn a return on that investment by helping them. If I was hosting content for people, I would too.

That’s all well and good but you fail to understand Hive works off a shared reward pool to reward original content and Jeff making $500+ a day posting other peoples content is not acceptable.

He will only get rewards if they consent to it from now on. In a week or so when development is done we will activate rewards only for creators linking back. I do admit it was a mistake not to do that from the start. Could have been my lack of understanding Hive and the community.

I think it is a little more nuanced then that. TDV gets 10% of the post earnings from creators who are linking back and approving of it. If not from now on it will be set to payment declined and they will still get all the views and links to their content. The 10% of those who approve is not really a lot. It will not even cover 0.1% of server cost, manpower and development. My idea behind vigilante.tv is to have a curated place for banned content creators and great content in danger of being banned. Also to get more eyes on that content helping people seeing the truth.

That’s not the impression I got when he said straight out said that Jeff has all the right to profit off other peoples videos.

Maybe just a miscommunication. I think with cancelling the payouts for non linkers and looking at the views the creators are getting creators only stand to benefit now, and I am 100% open to feedback from the community to make changes and improve!