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True so what can we do from the high horse (I am not sitting there - I watch from the bottom only)?

I don't believe any of us are, maybe with exceptions, only few of them known. In the grander scheme of things, perhaps our whales aren't either, except on Hive, at times.

Agree on signals but who can drive a n in-depth discussion so big guns also see there is need to talk/improve?

I was hoping some of these things have at least been discussed in the ad-hoc groups at Hivefest. Perhaps it wasn't the time or place to emphasize this too much in the public conferences or round tables and they weren't.

I saw Sorin brought up the aspect of the HIVE price in the long term. I'm not sure what the solutions can be at this point... We are caught in the larger wirlpool of alts, and wherever that leads we kind of follow.

Many people question this below (assume it was no key agenda point though to be discussed - yeah and Sorin might see it similar like may as also other people)

I was hoping some of these things have at least been discussed in the ad-hoc groups at Hivefest. Perhaps it wasn't the time or place to emphasize this too much in the public conferences or round tables and they weren't.

I saw Sorin brought up the aspect of the HIVE price in the long term. I'm not sure what the solutions can be at this point... We are caught in the larger wirlpool of alts, and wherever that leads we kind of follow.