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RE: You never heared of sudden pipeline death syndrome? A declaration of war

Why would russia do this?
They gain absolutely nothing from it and lose everything. They lose all the levrage over germany they had. Russia controls the flow of the gas. They could turn if on and off as they please to get germany to play ball. And there were protests about this in germany, i do not think we couldve continued to support ukraine with the energy shortage given that russian gas wouldve been an option if we just stopped opposing russia, now it isnt, now there is no reason at all to negotiate with russia.

There are many canidates who couldve done it, russia i think can pretty much ruled out, they dont have any motive (unless as a false flag but that wouldnt work, the world thinks they did it anyways) nor access to that part of the ocean.

If it was the new baltic pipe that was blown up - which, whoever did this couldve done, it crosses nordstream not far from one of the bombingsites - well that wouldve made sense.
This baltic pipe conveniently started operating one day before this happened by the way.
Which puts norway, denmark and poland on the list so to speak.
Poland would make a lot of sense - and a polish chairman of the US-EU delegation immediately credited the USA.

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We have multiple European States blaming Russia and really this actually is retaliation over German military equipment getting sent to Ukraine and don't forget recently the German tanks were blocked from getting transferred to Ukrainian forces. However we have seen Putin threatening to cut off all the gas and what I think is the biggest indicator is the fact that this pipeline is heavily dependent on not only German funding but also German Workers and German control.

I think there are bigger powers in play and Russia is pushing Germany and Germany ended up trying to say no and this is retaliation.

Having Russian warships in that area recently as well as forensic evidence might show us what's going on however. The biggest issue that I see is the fact that this entire event has been buried in the news and there's not that much going on around the investigation.

So the best I can guess is that eventually the truth is going to come out with us going over the forensic evidence.

Really it is down to Russia and the United States for capability to do this and Russia has the exact coordinates while the United States I fear wouldn't be meddling in this situation and Ukrainian forces are way too tied up and not prepared for an operation like this in the deep sea.

Technology wise it would be really hard for the United States to deploy underwater assets that would be needed to sabotage the pipeline however very close to this incident zone is the main Russian base....

What? A russian base? Where do you think these leaks are?

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Russia would certainly have a hard time gaining access to that part of the sea.

Let's see drive past Estonia and at the Northern end of the pipeline is Russia and their largest naval base.....

If you don't know that... Well... I just don't know what to say and best of luck fingering this out alone.

Yeah just like 1000 kilometers direct line - which would go over land so navigating around estonia rather than through it we are at maybe 1500km. Whereas the island of Bornholm houses a danish base. Russia isnt going to be able to get there easily much less completely unnoticed in such a heavily surveiled area.

Seems implausible. Plus of course i see absolutely no possible motive for russia.

Lol best of luck I'm not willing to engage with you further if you don't know simple history and geographic knowledge.

That's the main.submarine base for Russia and their naval fleet. The assets you are needing to do this are hosed there and in Virginia beach and Coronado California...

And Putin's threat to destroy Germany economically? This will do exactly that.

No, not getting that gas is what is going to destroy germany if anything. You do understand that these pipelines were meant to deliver russian gas, right? If that was what he meant to achieve he wouldve blown up the baltic pipe which conveniently went online one day prior to this and not delivered any gas.

Virginia Beach and California? I dont think russia is having any bases there.

Again you really do not understand what's going on.

FYI, submarines were likely not involved in this at all. The baltic sea is to shallow for sumbarines.

That's kind of an ironic statement because that's where the far majority of Russian naval assets are.