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RE: Down comes the Pike

in #informationwar4 years ago (edited)

On this matter, astronomically calculable, and not subject to the vagaries of human culture and the emergence of individuals impelled by their will, I agree that foreknowledge is operant.

But was the collapse of the Bronze Age empires in the 12th Century BCE their doing? Such would seem contrary to the interests of the overlords of the day, and it was a grand solar minimum that made famine ubiquitous then. Certainly that much later collapse of the Mayans due to drought would also have discomfited their ilk overseas. If they indeed are privy to a history that extends many more millenia back than that the public is aware of, perhaps to the LGM, surely they have had covert presence in all notable societies.

I dunno if they were extant then, or so immune to poverty and disarray as they would have had to be to allow those empires to collapse. It is interesting that the first eight names on the Sumerian King's List are Semitic, and only thereafter do Sumerian names appear on the list, though. My take is that the heritable psychopathy that seems to mark the families that have generationally wielded covert power over societies of late would not engender their suffering the poverty such collapses of civilization would subject them to.

I suppose it's possible they could have prepared for such collapses in advance, perhaps prefiguring the Iron Age which followed. That would make an interesting fictional tale. However, if they did recall the heights of the megalithic civilizations from the LGM, why did they not simply maintain enclaves with those technologies? Why plunge themselves into relative penury?

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I would say that most, if not all empires and advanced societies suffered/fell due to the minimums. I think that this is the main factor that 'they' keep from the public. We have spent the last half century funding their underground escapades. For what? A nuclear war or solar minimum where famine is the order. Gives a whole new meaning to "Control the food, control the people"....what is left of the people that is. Most advanced societies I look to in the past had a very unstable system regarding food. As in any disruption in the food supply causes the empire to crumble.

My take is that the heritable psychopathy that seems to mark the families that have generationally wielded covert power over societies of late would not engender their suffering the poverty such collapses of civilization would subject them to.

Spot on. I agree.

if they did recall the heights of the megalithic civilizations from the LGM, why did they not simply maintain enclaves with those technologies? Why plunge themselves into relative penury?

Zone changes due to solar minimums. They ebb and flow. "Grow zones". A place that is prime, can be rendered sub-prime in a matter of years. Magnetic shifts and precessions just totally changing landscapes. For example, was south america (mayan/Aztec lands) really always so much insanely dense forest/jungle? Or was it far more habitable before a previous zone shift?

Good stuff. This is exactly the kind of talk I look for thank you!

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