Krnel, your contributions are much more valuable than others that get up voted and you have never produced anything deserving a flag.
We do care, but until the community approves vote-canceling there will be no way to "correct" this kind of behavior.
I strongly disagree. Without getting into the underlying question of whether his posts are generally overrewarded, his repeated whining and ranting about voters disagreeing on the value of his content do not add value and should not be rewarded (and if rewarded should be flagged) and attacking other members for voting as they see fit by using name calling and making false accusations (both a form of trolling) are absolutely deserving of a flag.
And this post of his will be flagged by me if is significantly rewarded. There is nothing here that brings value to Steem, most obviously because it is repetitive and redundant, being is fifth or more post airing the same complaint (a form of spamming).
That's your opinion.
It might appear like whining to you, because you don't want to hear opposition to your own ideas and actions.
yes
This is entirely subjective, according to your tastes. I just wanted to make sure you do realize that just because you believe this, doesn't make it true. I would say that @mynameisbrian's comics are severely under-rewarded. That's my subjective opinion. Neither of these statements are objective facts. They are both opinions. Everything is subjective, that seems to be the way this system works, right?
Thanks @stellabelle! So kind of you to say. I need to turn on mention notifications because I just came across this comment by chance.
I also agree with the sentiment of your comment 100%. Value is in the eye of the beholder.
Some people prefer long-winded diatribes, others prefer biting comics. That's just how it is. If I was a whale, comics would be on the top of trending, along with other long-winded diatribes that I personally think are interesting. Variety is the freaking spice of life! I should say, not all comics. ONLY COMICS THAT MAKE ME LAUGH WOULD BE ALLOWED TO TREND.
Variety would be nice. It is a unfortunate that people are making it an either or choice. Both styles of content can coexist if those who have the staking power would stop moving the pendulum from one extreme to the next.
It is up to the larger stakeholders to get together and talk. This polarization and entrenchment of opposing views is an environment that produces conflict. They need to cross 'no man's land' shake hands, call a truce, and talk about how to act in ways that encourage growth for both parties.
please can we not kill everybody. I'm hoping on a resolution here.
Let´s implement this Vote-Canceling as soon as possible @dantheman, I support it 100% with my witness.
Also, please read my short important article about @karenmckersie : https://steemit.com/kicking/@fyrstikken/kicking-little-old-lady-down-the-stairs
@krnel is one of the people I know 100% is for the best of the platform, and if "vote-canceling" needs to be approved, I approve it and I am sure so will many others because a huge part of the community has had enough of this whale-police BS now.
Vote-cancelling might be important, but implementing something "as soon as possible" means that other, significantly more important things get paused.
I hope we stick to the plan. Ten people's butthurt is not worth delaying our mobile app that will be used by millions.
Not every little incidence of swirling site drama and associated 1-3 ragequits (most of whom don't actually quit) requires that we drop everything and fix it in code. In fact, if we follow this procedure, we get nowhere fast.
@sneak - Yes, let us just focus on the restaurant at the top and ignore the corner-stones and the foundation - IT WILL ALL BE GREAT - NOT!
@dan, @ned, @dantheman - What is most important? A Solid foundation, or a failing building?
If you think every instance of weekly finger-pointing on the site is evidence of a failing building—then run.
I agree with your earlier comment above about sticking to a plan, but you are missing the point that the issues absolutely run deeper and are more foundational than the weekly site drama and finger pointing. But again I agree this does not nevertheless, argue for disrupting progress on a bigger and more important plan. My suggestion, as it has been for some time, would be for the team to stay out of the site voting/downvoting/finger-pointing/name-calling drama entirely and focus on the plan. Getting caught up in it only makes matters worse. Let the community sort it out. This will all be forgotten in time, one way or another.
Vote cancelling won't produce the outcome you think it will. It basically gets to more or less the same outcome (though with slight differences in the calculation of curation rewards). Instead of downvoting, those who disagree with how whales are allocating rewards repeatedly to concentrated payouts for krnel and others and find that form of voting harmful will will cancel some of it, and the algorithm will find a consensus. Or alternately we will continue to downvote and those whales who disagree will cancel our votes, but in doing so reduce consume their vote power and reduce their own ability to excessively upvote. The net result will be much the same as it is now, with both upvotes and downvotes taking place (i.e. smaller rewards hogged at the top, and more rewards available for higher and more rewards to hundreds or thousands of other posts and comments).
thanks for getting that @karenmckersie initiative going. That was very kind and good.
I think whether or not he has produced anything deserving of a flag is subjective. It also depends on how much stake is already voting for that content. It could be good content, but still over-valued. Is that not one of the stated intentions of flagging, @dantheman? Disagreement on rewards?
Isn't that what whales are trying to do, the main argument is whales voted so whales downvote :D
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/681743255410319373
Dan you are one of the flaggots. you have flagged me personally.
Spreading the word about the censorship on this platform the last month seems to be making people notice. to bad its already to late and none of you wanted to listen earlier.
all I got there was a political debate, everyone is a flaggot here, expecially the higher ups :) get a bigger stake than them and weigh it down uppon them :) funny for a meme, how are you doing btw :) I'm not sure anybody checks what the "banned" "trolls" are up to
hi. xD
Just been chillin, I check back here once in a while.
How u been?
Disagree.
//Edit:
@smooth has explained above.
Also I downvoted this comment due to "disagreement on rewards".
Thanks Dan :)
Can you provide info on the recent post for the issues with the flag negation? Looking for what the whole issue involves to learn more about it. Thanks!