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RE: Don't Vote! Anarchy is Freedom - Jeff Berwick on Rogue News

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As for "doing your part", you're doing (part of) it right now, having a reasoned discussions with me and thinking for yourself.

As little power as one vote may have it still has more power than any amount of internet discussion. Does your state or country have a referendum or ballot question process?

Voting brought Donald Trump and the Brexit, two things the powers that be fucking hate so that's pretty good. We made pot legal here so that is also good.

The proper response is that you can't just leave man, you have to renounce your citizenship and there is like a filing fee man and that is like slavery and theft you goddamned statist slave. Of course changing your state residence is pretty easy, you can move to NH and not have any state income or sales taxes and very few regulations and permit requirements and that sort of thing. You start talking about permits up there and they look at you like you have three heads.

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State or County is a different conversation, (thing or entity) than I was having, I apologize. I'm thinking more from a federal government viewpoint.

Donald may have been voted into office but before I say was voted in you need to show me proof that I can verify myself. Give me a blockchain like open and verifiable voting system and I might believe it. Since Donald has been in he may have changed a few faces but he's doing the same old same old where it counts, money and killing people. M.I.C.

Britain has long been very protective of their money, its history, so them saying FU to the EU makes total sense. I don't see an issue there.

Dont think the surveillance and criminal bankster capital of the world is somehow on your side just because of brexit.
There will always be some fighting to take, make or keep an advantage.

You say "we made pot legal". <----Think about that for a minute.

I say it shouldn't have ever been illegal. Me smoking pot has no impact on your life so it should have never been up for vote in the first place. However me dumping toxins in the river upstream of you gives you the right to say something to me.

Your giving me a right to do something that you should never have been involved with in the first place. Statist?

My question man, like how did you even become a citizen man? Like did you fill out a form and pay a fee? Or did the the goddamed statist system and its minions just assume they owned you to begin with?

You say "Changing your state residence pretty easy" Yes from a paperwork standpoint I'm sure it is. But when you add years of life and all that that implies, it really is not.

I am staying here and hopefully fighting the good fight. I know my neighbors and I'm locally involved so hopefully I'm doing the right thing.

Votes are secret, that's good or else they might have shamed people into not voting for Trump.
you thinking it shouldn't have been illegal wouldn't have done you any good if you were busted. Me voting to fix a historical wrong corrected that, thanks voting.

My parents filled out the form that made me a citizen here, it's called a birth certificate, a copy costs $10.

America is pretty awesome, I have been other places, they suck.

And Votes should continue to be secret!

I agree 100%!

With blockchain you could anonymousally verify a single vote, do a publically transparent count of all the votes AND keep anonymity for all. What's to lose?

And we are back to talking about State and local again. Local is not what I'm talking about here.
Thanks for voting and correcting the historical wrong in your State, seriously Thanks it IS helpful. However it shouldn't have been legalized it should have been decriminalized.

I totally understand that my views of MY freedoms are not understood or respected by the statist minions, and they would bust me in a second if they can get a gold star from the higherups.

So you are a Citizen.
Are you a citizen of the Americas, North America, The United States (U.S.), or The United States of America (U.S.A.)? They are all different.

I have also done limited traveling and like where I live.

There are mechanisms for verifying the accuracy of the vote, that could someday also be one.

However it shouldn't have been legalized it should have been decriminalized.

It already was. In some ways that was better, back then they could not search your car based on the smell because possession was not a crime. Since they legalized it having an open container of cannabis is now a crime so they can once again search when they claim to smell it. On the plus side now they can't take your kids away for using cannabis.

No one is a citizen of North America, it's not a country.

That's a great example of legalized vs decriminalized. And that's one of the points I was driving at.

Isn't it interesting that by legalizing something it can now be used against you! Used to invade your privacy, take away your rights and freedoms (in this case not your kids).

(Completely off topic. How do you insert quotes from previous posts? I want to add one from earlier)

(Quote from previous) "You say "we made pot legal". <----Think about that for a minute."

If I understand you correctly you say "it already was" decriminalized. So by voting to make pot legal you essentially took away my right of decriminalized pot use and mad it a privilege.

So by passing this Law, do you now have more or less freedom? I'm not there, this not rhetorical, I do not know the answer to that question so I'm asking.

Legalizing something gives more control to THEM. It makes a Permission not a Right. My goal is smaller less intrusive Government not more.

So when I tell you that I'm a "North American Sovereign" your going to say I don't exist because I'm not a Citizen owned by some Country Gang with a flag?

"If I understand you correctly you say "it already was" decriminalized. So by voting to make pot legal you essentially took away my right of decriminalized pot use and mad it a privilege."

Not really, the voters created a new crime of open container of cannabis in a misguided effort to regulate it as if it was alcohol, but of course it is not alcohol. You can have your pot in the trunk or in a sealed container.

There is more freedom and protection for cannabis users and distributors in the new law, less protection and freedom for stoned bad drivers. The misconception is that stoned drivers are actually a threat like drunk drivers.

So when I tell you that I'm a "North American Sovereign" your going to say I don't exist because I'm not a Citizen owned by some Country Gang with a flag?

No, I will just be bemused like the judge was when I saw someone make that claim in traffic court and then storm out, his fine will be mailed to him.

When did you renounce your citizenship? how much did it cost?

Prohibition is the abdication of regulation, decriminalization keeps all the criminal elements intact, it is a half measure. When the government fails to regulate something it ought to regulate then all sorts or market failures happen, one of those market failures is obtrusive policing because of the violent gangs that arise in unregulated markets created by prohibition.

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