If you put a fence around me and call it your border, and you keep squeezing me in and I live in dire conditions, yes I will try to push back. Then you can say I attack your border.
All he same, we can argue until the cows come home who, after all these years, is in the right. The fact is that the geopolitical landscape was irrevocably changed by the creation of the state of Israel. We can call it a land grab, we can call it a rightful gift, the truth is in the eyes of the partisan beholder.
Without going back to the Balfour Declaration, there has, since 1948 been wrongdoing on both sides, and if anger is understandable on both sides, no amount of violence can be justified on either.
After all these years of strife, we are left with a David and Goliath (just referring to the size and power) situation in terms of political power and weaponry, with one unfettered nuclear nation continuing its bid for expansion (see Golan Heights) with powerful western allies on one side, and a ragtag assemblage of resistants, for want of a better word, with fewer consequential allies, internationally ineffective leadership and an abhorrent religion..
Bottom line, I doubt that provocation (on either side) is ever going to yield a lasting peaceful solution, and if we, miles away who for the most part don’t have a dog in this fight, can gouge each others’ eyes out, metaphorically speaking on the subject, it regretfully, doesn’t make me too hopeful about the possibility of peaceful cohabitations …
However, if we can transcend such divides as wrong vs right, left vs. right, liberal vs. conservatives, Jews/Zionists vs. antisemites, and step into a new paradigm, maybe there is hope.
But maybe I have better odds of seeing a unicorn at my window tomorrow morning.
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David and Goliath?
Can you expand on that?
You are looking at a country surrounded by enemies. You talk about being boxed in? That's what being boxed in looks like. The conflict would be easily ended if other "brotherly" states stepped up and encouraged absorption of the Pal's... but guess what.. NONE OF THEM WANT THEM. - protest that.
I think we have to look at this through the prism of global alliances as well, and I am not sure that on a local level it is a strict Arab/Jew issue either. We have to factor in the phenomenon of uniting against a common enemy as in the game of alliances Iran/Syria/Russia and USA/Israel/Saudi Arabia. Jordan and Israel have a peace treaty in place. The relationships between Israel and the countries highlighted on your map are more nuanced than the map indicates. For example, between Israel and Niger, there may not be official diplomatic relations but neither are there official trade or travel restrictions.
Regarding the Iran nuclear deal, the following countries are aligned with the United States: Israel, Bahrain, UAE, Saudi Arabia, the last three being Arab/Muslim countries.
When it comes to the game of alliances, yesterday’s foes become today’s friends and vice-versa, according to how it serves their interests, and there is a web of alliances that go beyond your map that complicated matters further.
There is no nuance in the fact that in all these countries Jews lived under the apartheid of the dhimmi laws for 1400 years and in the past century all these countries ethnically cleansed the Jews from their lands.
Thanks for the video. I’ll watch it over the weekend.
Thanks for taking the time.
Ever been to Singapore?
Its a similar size to Gaza and a higher population density, but they've made it a Paradise.
In contrast, Hamas has turned Gaza into Hell.
Its not about your size, its about what you do with it.
Singapore is indeed a model of economic development, Notwithstanding the cultural differences that may account for their different paths, I wonder to what degree we are not comparing apples and oranges. Beside the fact that they are both fruit (tiny territories) and both have seeds (population) that hang from branches (British control) before they are picked, their respective histories post 1948 are very different, when 200.000 refugees ended up on the Gaza strip, with the attending misery in a war-torn land. Two years after Singapore gained its independence, Israel occupied the Gaza strip.
There are many different factors to consider beside those two, so I don’t know whether it is a fair comparison.
I am enclosing links as food for thought for fellow Steemians who might be interested in pursuing this Gaza-Singapore compare and contrast activity.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9965/gaza-strip-singapore
https://stngiam.wordpress.com/2014/07/28/if-the-gaza-attacks-took-place-in-singapore/
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/07/opinion/l-gaza-city-state-could-be-singapore-of-mideast-365688.html
Wonderful comment of a true critical thinker. You just have to look at the history and context and the reasons behind everyone's actions become patently obvious. It's like that with most things in the world, but especially politics. The ancient Romans used the phrase cui bono, to whom is it a benefit. Apply that to each and every political action and you will eventually find the perpetrator.
I second your notion that these issues are politicized way too much. What it comes down to are classical virtues like truth, justice, liberty and peace. From that standpoint the situation is clear as day. It's not about religion, it's about power and greed. Has always been, will always be. That's why the powers that run this show create hot button issues like you mentioned to divide public opinion and divert from their true evil agenda. They fool the public into the illusion of choice while they can secretly carry out their unilateral plans. The left-right paradigm is a major deception that can only be broken by people realizing that their main needs are basically the same and they need to stand up to the evil powers in unison.
As for your peace wishes, Nuttyyahoo made that part abundantly clear when he said that there can be no resolution to the Middle East conflict without accepting the truth of Jerusalem’s status as the capital. Of course that's just one of many reasons that is used to further expand Israel's terror grip on the region. Their main goal is the Greater Israel Project which has been known since the 1980's. Maybe that's the 'cause' @bearbear613 is referring, too. That was sarcasm of course as he clearly has no idea what he's talking about.
yes the Greater Israel Project.. I just renewed my membership - pod