If you just use Lightning through a custodial wallet like Wallet of Satoshi or GetAlby they can hide the pain.
But systems like Muun and Breeze which give you a degree of custody of your own sats, are by necessity swapping in and out of BTC and trying to hide this from you. They're stuffed by fees like this. Muun in particular will charge you insane fees of 1000's of sats so much so that my own v4v.app system will actually refuse to send to a Muun wallet because I've specifically forbidden my system from paying crazy fees.
If someone does try to send Hive to a Muun wallet right now, you'll just get a failure and a refund of all your Hive within a couple of seconds.
All in all this is exposing a huge failing in Lightning if you try to run your own wallet on a small scale.
