Well let's agree to disagree because you do not even want to discuss our difference in opinions.
Both the Steemcleaners (bot) and cheetah(bot) are a scam.
The only reason this is done is to be able to upvote (by Adm) themselves (you?), pretending to be the (self-appointed) Steemit police. This is how steemcleaner justifies to be a spambot. Further you and Steemcleaners buy votes and use votebots. It is for all to see in your wallets....
The Cheetah (bot) is even worse. Since it just gives every article an (empty) upvote. I can only imagine how they (you?) try to rape the rewardpool with this.
We would really appreciate if you, steamcleaners and your bots find somewhere else to spam.
But steemcleaners isn't a bot...
Just trying to correct a factual inaccuracy with your comment :)
Steemcleaners isn't a guy, or a girl, its a group of people.
I'm not avoiding anything, I work with steemcleaners, yes. What discussion did you want to have? I was just correcting you that steemcleaners isn't a bot and its not a scam. It does exactly what it says it does, fights plagiarism, identity theft, etc..
I will try to go through and touch on a few of the points you raised.
Its hard to take your reply seriously when your first line is "Well first of all that is not true it does not fight plagiarism,"... have you read the logs we post? That is literally what we do, look at all the cases. Are there things we miss? Sure, but we are only people. I can tell you that we review and log anything we personally find or anything reported to us.
If you are telling me to look up the definition of plagiarism that is another sign that you don't actually read our posts or comments. On any post that could be considered plagiarism we literally link to the definition of plagiarism in the comment.
I agree that your posts aren't plagiarism, that's why nobody accused you of plagiarizing anything. You'll notice that comment you received doesn't mention the word plagiarism, it talks about copy/pasting, there are people who feel copying and pasting entire articles without adding any original thought doesn't add anything to the platform. That is why the comment you received talked about only using a few direct lines from the source, adding your own thoughts, and not directly copying more than 50% of the article.
As far as interacting with users after a steemcleaners comment there is all kinds of followup work done, we just generally do it on our personal accounts instead of the steemcleaners account.
As far as vote buying goes, absolutely none of our reports use vote buying services. We actually dont want our reports trending, the reasons having been discussed at length in posts like this one. I am not going to go into this yet again but there is absolutely no vote buying and we actively avoid trying to have our reports trending.
You misunderstood the first post on our last report, he was talking about comment spam on our actual report from other people. The comments we make can look similar because we use similar responses for the different kinds of abuse. Plagiarism, identity theft, misuse of tags, etc..
We don't put other people down, we fight abuse. You don't think Steemit is better off having someone that cares about fighting abuse? What would you propose? Do you feel people should be able to blatantly plagiarize, steal someone else's identity, or any number of things without any consequences? If you are anti plagiarism and abuse than I would like to hear your ideas on how best to combat it. Personally I feel steemit is better for having people that actually care about trying to make sure that if someone steals your hard work, your original steemit post, that there are some sort of consequences.
I hope I have shown you that I read and considered your post. I have tried to correct the things that are just factually incorrect. We are not a bot but a group of people, our reports never use vote buying, we follow up on any and all claims of plagiarism that we find/are reported to us. It seems like you already have your mind made up so I don't expect you to change it but I hope you at least got a little more insight into how things actually work for us.