My look into Urbit

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My look into Urbit

Hello all,

Phew it's been a while since I've posted anything not related to Hive or my Tribe. Well here we go:

URBIT - https://urbit.org/

What the frick is Urbit you ask?

In their words:
A clean-slate OS and network for the 21st century.

In my words, I would say it's an overlay OS. It's a complete OS from machine code all the way to the front end UI, but the catch is that it doesn't run on bare metal (and probably won't ever in the forseeable future), but it has to run on top of an existing traditional computer. It's an entirely new and different stack, with different languages used.

It features a fully encrypted peer to peer networking system with unique cryptographic ID.

Urbit is not a crypto-currency. It doesn't have a coin. But they do use Ethereum for their ID system.

Urbit ID system

Urbit has a unique ID system, which I will briefly describe here:

  • Galaxy - 8-bit ID, with names like ~zod or ~mul. These can issue Stars and are (or will be) considered the rulers of the Urbit system.
  • Star - 16-bit ID, with names like ~samzod or ~timpub. These are meant to be higher level servers, that provide services and can create planets.
  • Planet - 32-bit ID, with names like ~rivmep-darref. These are intented to be user level computers, used by most ordinary folk.
  • Moons and comets, these have 64-bit and 128-bit names, very long and unwieldly names, meant to be used by devices or bots (or people that can't afford a planet). These are second or third class users of the system, but are useful.

This is a hierarchy system, and Galaxy, Stars and Planets are now handled as NFTs on Ethereum. Moons and comets can be generated without needing to buy an NFT.

Yep I own a planet!

~rivmep-darref

This is my planet ~rivmap-darref with the strange sigil shown above.
I also own the Star ~timpub, but I haven't done much with it.

So, Neoxian, what's Urbit good for? Is it useful?

Err, yes, um, I'll get back to you. To be honest, it maybe a long time, if ever, that Urbit will be very useful for anything. Many people consider it an Art project rather then a usable system.

I've been following the Urbit project for a long time and keep coming back to it. It's just so strange and different. It feels like such an Alien system. It always seems like I have hacked into some alien computer whenever I use their terminal (called Dojo). Their machine code Nock and (slightly) higher level language Hoon are also very different from anything I have encountered in my 25+ years of being a computer nerd.

Urbit has made great progress in the last couple years

I will say though, that Urbit has made a lot of progress in the last couple of years. They have added "Landscape" which is an actual GUI for Urbit, and makes things look much nicer, so it's not just a terminal app. Also they have an app called "Port" which makes it much easier to run Urbit. There is a bitcoin app in Urbit, pretty cool! Other apps are being worked on as well.


Here is a picture of my Planet in Landscape. You can see I have Terminal app, "Groups" app, which is a chatting app, and there is a Bitcoin app.

Win free money! By showing up in my urbit chat room!

Yep that's right, you can earn some money if you can find your way into my Urbit chat room.

  • The prize: 8 HBD for any of my regulars in Matrix chat, else it's only 4 HBD. This goes out to the FIRST FOUR PEOPLE who show up in the chat.

  • You don't need to own a planet, just using a comet (which is free) is perfectly fine. When you show up, just identify who you are in hive. (Yes you need to have a Hive account).

  • The Urbit chat room is ~rivmep-darref/city-of-neoxian that's the room you need to join using the "Groups" app.

  • To start up Urbit on your machine, I highly recommend using "Port".
    https://urbit.org/getting-started#port
    This is by far the easiest way to do it. I think it runs on Windows (???)

  • Time limit is Nov. 7th, 2021.

Anyway that's it. I'm curious if anyone will find their way into my chat, but in any case, happy Urbiting!

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Getting my little comet in.

Let me find my way to your chat first :p XD after that i will try to understand :p XD

I will definitely check out this and submit my comet.

It was great to learn about the Urbit . I will try to get into chatting with small comets.

Wow, that sounds absolutely amazing.

Some questions about the FAQ.

Previous attempts to "decentralize" the internet have only attempted to solve certain corners of the problem. Urbit proposes that only a new stack, built from the ground up as a tightly integrated system, can realize a great user experience for people using a peer-to-peer web.

So is this truly decentralized? No dolphins, no whales, no moderators, no administrators, no authority, just/only simply people?

The connected world anticipated by Urbit is a much friendlier one, much like the early Internet, where collegial discussion and collaboration was the norm.

Something similar like a BBS (Bulletin board system) in a modern, truly decentralized form? If yes, then that sounds very good, but to be honest, I still do not understand the concept of the Urbit.

The whales in this system would be the Galaxy owners, people that own ~zod, and ~mul, etc, these are the rulers of Urbit. Read about the ID system in the post.

This is a hierarchy system

Which is the base of censorship and oppression, so this is far from real decentralization, and this is not so different from the Steem/Hive blockchain from this aspect. Enough for me to not try this.

@tipu curate

Looks interesting, leaving a comment to remember to come back later and check it out more.

I think this is great, when we can have a decentralized OS everything will be decentralized from there onwards. Just like when you have Linux OS you do not have to rely on Windows or Mac OS or pay anything for the OS or anything.

Ubuntu and Linux Mint are the easiest Linux distribution. Practically anyone can install and use them. And they are not more difficult than Windows, but they are free and much more safer than Windows.

I heard of this project before, but didn't try. Hope to give a try on this. (Honestly no idea what I can do with a private OS at the moment)
Thanks for giving an introduction!
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I will show this to my son. Hope he can help me out. Some of the above are way above my head. It does sound great when you say you own planets and stars. cool.

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