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RE: The Power of the Time Machine: Would changing history be the best use?

in #philosophy8 years ago

The big bang never happened. It is a stupid idea.

And stating absolutes with certainty is not "stupid"?

You are certainly sure of a lot of things. You must be a god.

Sadly, I don't buy it. :)

but, you can't even talk well about flat-earth here.

Sure you can. There is a big difference between can't and expecting people to agree with you. You can talk about whatever you want. That doesn't mean people have to agree with you.

In fact, the more you pass off hypothesis/speculations as fact/truth without proof, testing, data, etc the less likely people are to listen to other ideas. That is a consequence people must live with when they are so certain they have it figured out. Back it up with testable, provable data that explains all observable phenomena better than the current model. You must replace the model with something that can replace it and work. Sadly I have seen no version of the flat earth that even comes close to achieving this.

It is usually... I saw this and it CAN'T be explained..." which CAN'T is a bullshit absolute. Just because it makes no sense to you does not mean it is not explainable.

The big bang never happened.

Then tossing out absolutes such as NEVER, ALWAYS, etc. Prove it. I do not view you as a god, I do not recognize your authority so appeals to authority fallacies have no meaning on me.

Appeal to the Stone fallacies (dismissing something as absurd without proof of why it is absurd) also do not sway me.

Convince me with data (aka observation), hypothesis explaining that observation, then test it, document the test method, share ALL results of the test (no cherry picking), and if the hypothesis explains all of the results others can repeat it. If at that point it is repeated by others then it is accepted as a theory. That does not mean it will cease to be challenged. The scientific method is completely about asking questions. Though the words never, always, can't, etc don't have much place in the scientific method.

You are I think mistaking CAN'T with the concept of forcing others to blindly agree with you. If you are saying you can't blindly state things as truth without proof here and expect people to agree then you are correct. Welcome to reality. We all have our own brains.

If you want to convince intelligent people that actually think then you need to do more than simply state things that are your opinion as truths. You can state that "In my opinion X". Yet when you state "The big bang never happened. It is a stupid idea." without any proof, explanation, etc then that is nothing more than a big appeal to the stone fallacy.

If you knew what I do about time, you would instantly discard the big bang theory.

See. It is statements like that and about flat earth. You presume to know what I know. Mind reader much?

This is rather arrogant. People that DO think when they see such statements immediately view your cognitive levels as immature. Not in the "I am a kid" mode. More in the. Lacking wisdom. Assuming they are not wrong. Assuming others are wrong. Inability to see because they already assume they see what others do not. Not realizing perhaps that they DO NOT see.