I vehemently oppose Hobbes's positions and I find them nefarious at best. There is a simple, logical counter argument for all these: Remove the psychological barrier, which is held and maintained by a mind driven by the opposition of duality, that dictates that being "human" is to be guided (by another jaded god) into sullen submission. Self-centered, yes we are. But we are also in constant evolutionary flux and on top of that, amazingly adaptive. Hobbes's ideas ordain that man is to be treated as nothing more than an uncultured, untrustworthy savage. If any of you personally comply with that derailed train of thought, please remove your flat cap before bowing down in front of your (abstractly chosen) overlord. In today's world, we are spreading ideas and knowledge and we have the infrastructure and cognitive abilities to do so, fruitfully. In Hobbes's run down world, nothing is holier than a whip lash.
Synopsis: Hobbes's ideas were shit back then, they are still shit now.
Great post mate. Upvoted and followed!
Hobbes wrote Leviathan partly as response to a very brutal English civil war, so his idea of man is probably greatly influenced by this.
If he was alive today, his idea of an 'uncultured, untrustworthy savage' could vary. Although one could argue that even modern man still behaves like a savage from time to time.
Thanks for the follow and compliment ;-)