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RE: First They Make You Take the Vaccine

in #politics3 years ago

The media says that as vaccination numbers increase, the number of Covid patients who are fully or partially vaccinated will also increase.

The media has not asked why the number of vaccinated patients in countries with high vaccination rates are disproportionately high relative to local demographics.

Likewise, the government isn't releasing information on the efficacy of vaccine and vaccine doses, except to push the vaccine narrative.

Considering comorbidities, we see that deaths could be prevented by encouraging healthy lifestyles. Losing weight, addressing medical conditions, a healthy diet. Instead, the government forbids people from leaving the house, and junk food companies offer free food to people who get vaccinated.

What we see today is that the government hides answers that are politically inconvenient, and push for solutions that drive people towards poorer overall health instead. With so much deception from the government, Big Pharma and the media, one must assume the worst.

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"The media says that as vaccination numbers increase, the number of Covid patients who are fully or partially vaccinated will also increase."

Statistically that makes sense. If 90% of people are vaccinated you will have more vaccinated patients than if 50% of people are vaccinated. That will be true unless the vaccine is 100% effective.

"The media has not asked why the number of vaccinated patients in countries with high vaccination rates are disproportionately high relative to local demographics."

This is what I was alluding to somewhat with the fact that this does not seem to be true in the U.S. (and presumably at least some other countries as well). I don't think this statement is true unless you put "some" in front of "countries" which changes the implications a little.

First, what is a "high" vaccination rate? In Florida, which is considered "bad", the rate is approaching 60% and the hospitalization rates for COVID seem to be hovering around 90% unvaccinated which by my math would seem to indicate that the vaccine helps. Other than possibly the vaccine type, what is different in some of these other countries where the numbers seem to show something different? Different comorbitites, genetic makeup, something else? Also, I don't see what vaccination rate has to do with whether or not there are proportionally more vaccinated patients. If it is going to be disproportionate I would expect it to be so at any vaccination rate.

As far as comorbitities, my point was that a statistic saying that most people who are hospitalized or die because of covid have them isn't very meaningful when most people have them. Add to that, correlation does not equal causation. Nearly 100% of covid patients have arms. However, I agree that in general a healthier lifestyle makes sickness and death less likely. But you are not going to lose that extra 30 pounds overnight either.

I don't know anyone personally who has had serious issues with COVID. I do know a few people indirectly that have dealt with it though. The husband of one of my wife's friends died because of complications due to COVID (pneumonia in both lungs...pretty sure this is what kills most patients). He was in his late 30s and had no known health issues other than being slightly overweight. Another facebook friend of mine is in his late 50s but very healthy. He was sick for weeks with COVID and had some complications even after recovering but he was never hospitalized. I don't believe either was vaccinated (in the latter case, he is a healthcare worker so had a lot of exposure but the vaccine was not available yet at the time). The former case was just a couple of weeks ago. On the other side of the coin, both my parents and my sister have been vaccinated. All have comorbitites (father has heart condition, mother has high blood pressure, sister in very good shape but a cancer survivor). No significant issues from the vaccine. My son has also been vaccinated (had to if he wanted to continue participation in sports). No known comorbitities and also no significant issues (though he was pretty sick for about a week after the first dose). These are all anecdotal of course but when everyone seems to be twisting every statistic they can to suit their own narrative, I tend to put more weight on my personal observations.

Government isn't some monolithic entity with a single will. Politicians make the decisions they make for political reasons (to keep their job primarily), appealing to one base or the other (or trying to). They will try to hide or deflect anything that makes whatever decision they made look bad. There may be a few exception to this, but very few. Take governor DeSantis in Florida. He has banned schools from enforcing mask wearing. Now in this case it's a good decision because the best science says masks don't work (unless it's an N95 or similar) but his decision has nothing to do with science. It has to do with politics and what he thinks will get him the most support...and attention since he will likely run for president at some point. Regardless of the science, he wants the attention a one on one argument with Biden will get him.

Unfortunately, most individuals seem to be the same way. They will pick a side and stick with it no matter what, being unwilling to admit to being wrong on even one minor point. Likewise, if they see that you are wrong on even one minor point, they take it as proof your entire argument is invalid.