Keep up the great work, Larken!
I like to ask people people if they support slavery. They all respond with a "no", of course. I then ask "If slavery is forcibly taking 100% of a person's earnings, at what percentage is it not slavery?"
Keep up the great work, Larken!
I like to ask people people if they support slavery. They all respond with a "no", of course. I then ask "If slavery is forcibly taking 100% of a person's earnings, at what percentage is it not slavery?"
Slaves had no earnings. They were kidnapped from their families and given no choice in their daily activities. They could be killed on a whim, for fun, or as an example. Comparing taxes to slavery betrays your grave misunderstanding of the inequities of slavery.
Telos, exercise your natural right to provide for your needs (food sheltet, clothing) through goods or services without paying taxes, make sure the gov't is aware you are living free and see what happens. (spoiler alert...you will be caged, or if you resist being kidnapped for caging, killed.) and how many ARE killed just on a whim or as an example by the modern whip crackers (law enforcement officers)? WAKE UP MAN!
Try not paying taxes and see how "better" your government behaves towards you. Won't be much different than a slave master.
Governments kill their own citizens with impunity all the time.
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
Their would-be earnings are the product of their labor, which all go to their master. Their labor would produce earnings if they weren't slaves.
Earnings are almost never tied to labor unless you're the business owner. Earning are what you agree to receive when you accept a job offer. That step simply did not exist for slaves. They never had any choice, they were literally forced to work. By contrast you only pay taxes if you choose to work or choose to own property. Key word there being "choose."
@lifeworship:
So your first link is by a guy who also seems to think chemtrails are a problem. That doesn't inspire much faith in his numbers.
Meanwhile here's a graph showing measles cases were slowly lowering but had a sharp drop-off when the vaccine was introduced: http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/graph-us-measles-cases
I'll also add this chart of deaths from measles that, if you drew a trend line would probably look more like your guy's graph: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsrates1940_60.pdf (page 85)
So here's my interpretation: Your guy used deaths from measles instead of actual incidents of measles, and there were fewer deaths because hygiene, medicine and other factors improved. In fact, here's a nice long blog post addressing exactly those points: http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/2014/06/pre-vaccine-declines-in-measles.html
Now, as to your polio vaccine argument... it does appear that a virus in the vaccine could cause cancer. However they fixed that in 1961:
How would you feel about a tax on having children?
Basically, humans need to work and own property to live. Therefore the choice is:
a) die
b) live as a slave.
Which is not much of a choice.
ran out of replies, i'll answer your false choice here.
i don't engage in activities that kill children, honestly, what kind of a question is that? though pro vaccinators statistically, demonstrably, provably do. here :
http://genesgreenbook.com/resources/obamsawin/ImmunizationGraphs-RO2009.pdf
is an article that the pro vaccination people never talk about. it shows the decrease in infectious disease, due to improvements in hygiene and sanitation, took place BEFORE the introduction of vaccines. vaccines didn't save us. in fact with the statistically provable death and debilitation rates of the use of vaccines, i'd say that your opinions are more of a threat to children than mine. Again, though, this is not an issue of whether or not these demonstrable poisons are safe to inject into the veins of children at ever increasing rates to pad the bottom line of the pharmaceutical companies, it is about the rights of the individual to choose accurate data when deciding what to inject into THEIR children's bodies or not.
here is an additional article on the favorite fallback argument of pro vaccination advocates, polio :
http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf
i do admire your tenacity. i wish you would read the data and join the informed. we would love to have you as an ally.
telos already believes that the state owns your children and can do what it wants with them, and when confronted with the fact resorts to false choices and accusations that someone who believes in freedom wants to kill their and other people's children. see here:
https://steemit.com/health/@mxu111/stunning-blow-to-anti-vaxxer-parents#@telos/re-lifeworship-re-mxu111-stunning-blow-to-anti-vaxxer-parents-20160817t020105373z
You never did answer that question, and you're completely mischaracterizing what I said. I never even remotely stated that the state owns your children. I was pointing out that you would like to make a decision that could kill them. But hey, have fun stalking me to trash talk me!
You are correct, it's not fair to compare outright slavery with citizenship. On a scale of 1 to 100 on the freedom scale, slave = 1, citizen = 2, so twice as good to be a citizen.. It's a very good trick, to give slaves a much larger area to roam, and call the plantation a nation. Look at how much better cows feel when you let them out of a cage and limit them to an acre.
So it's unfair to compare to slavery, and then you immediately compare to slavery again.
No, you're right. You're totally a slave. A man whips you and forces you to work, chooses what work you do, and fucks your wife every day then beats you up again for some fun. "The man" forces you to live in a tiny hut too, right? Oh but I guess you admit the hut he forces you to live in is a little larger now.
What? You choose where you live? You chose what to do for a living? No one whips you or fucks your wife? Wow, it's almost like you're totally not a slave.
Some slaves were allowed to leave the plantation to work for money. They had to give a percentage of their earnings to their master back at home.
And even slavery wasn't taking %100 of earnings, slaves were provided food, shelter, security, etc.
Wow.