Yes which is why I was pretty determined to get it in one go but for this case specifically I did not really need the extra data. If I did I think I would query the rows as normal and instead of having sql do the computing just run a loop to structure it as I want it , which is actually what I usually do. Guess it depends what I am querying, I will learn better ways to do it as I go I am sure :) !PIZZA
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