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This (the thing that someone downvote someone else for posting personal things, like learning Chinese) and the fact that some communities are downvoting the #introduceyourself posts from newbies in their communities is a straight way to ruin this platform.

This is the sort of thing that ruin's everyone's experience on the platform. Seriously, it's one thing to downvote spammers but legit users should not be bullied in such a way. Or rather, should not be bullied at all.

This saddens me and is one of the reasons I have started reexamining my plans to integrate more of Hive's social aspects into my business and website when it launches.

Maybe if we remove the Hive token from te frontends and replace with the frontends own token, with Hive on the backend, then this stuff would not be as prevalent. Same would be the case for the spam, abuse, plagiarism etc. Win Win all around.

where there are people and monetary value (or potential) there will be spam, abuse and plagiarism. How a community responds decides how bad it gets.

I don't disagree. I wonder if we could do some things on the tech side and monetary side though to help dissuade it, all the while encouraging more positive engagement and pulling in more curators (butts in seats and eyeballs on content).

Just thinking out loud really, but worth maybe crowdsourcing for some thoughts from smarter folks than I.

how exactly would you be able to discern that someone has engaged a ghostwriter? When the whole purpose of ghostwriting is to have content prepared and published under the person's name. The ghostwriter is not even supposed to comment who their client is.

Spam and plagiarism can be and does get caught even though some people get very unhappy that there are people on Hive who dedicate themselves to finding and exposing it.

Between their efforts and people in the community willing to downvote bad behaviour Hive doesn't do too badly when it comes to keeping some level of control on the problem of spam and plagiarism.

I've been reading some over on Loop (formerly Trybe) and am seeing a growing issue of spammy posts and comments. It reminds me of what I saw on Uptrennd which no longer exists because it died, literally.

Tech can only go so far. Ultimately it takes fair minded people seeing and reacting to bad behaviour.

how exactly would you be able to discern that someone has engaged a ghostwriter?

I don't care if they do as long as the work they produce is not spammy or plagiarizes the content of others.

Spam and plagiarism can be and does get caught even though some people get very unhappy that there are people on Hive who dedicate themselves to finding and exposing it.

I am glad there are people willing to. I think the approach some use may be what the rub could be.

Either way, I'm not getting caught up in the drama of it all. Still recovering from my strokes and this place ain't worth my health😊

How do you propose we stop it? How do we decide what is a proper downvote, versus an improper downvote objectively? Since when does a downvote become bullying? What about upvotes? Will we impose the same methods for proper upvote versus improper upvotes?

Exactly!

if you hate China, then keep it to yourself. You have no right to downvote anybody for sharing his learning of Chinese language.

Wrong!

Its his stake he can use it for upvote or downvotes, reason doesn't really matter.
Its just polite to leave a reason :)

Also, we cant stop it.


Do I agree with this bahavior? No, not at all.
But its allowed.

P.s. I even think I know who you talk about.