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RE: Proposal: Ecosystem Operations, Bizdev and Growth Retrospective

in #proposal2 months ago

HEY! So before we address anything you wrote about me I think there is something that need to be pointed out:

Stop apologizing for entering conversations you were expressly invited to. Content creators are just as necessary to Hive's circle of life as anyone else. When I started, that's all I ever intended to do. I wanted to stay anonymous and tell stories that made people feel something, and then got drawn into feeling some kind of way about the tech itself... and now here we are. Creators and consumers are the people this tech is built for, and whether you feel this way just because you're unsure of yourself, or someone has worked to convince you... cut it out. Comparing yourself to a cockroach is absurd, so don't! And if the meaning of that is more indicative that you are fearful to speak up in a contentious discussion lest we big ol' chickens peck you to death, I'm incredibly sorry for the behaviour of those in our ecosystem to make you feel that way. It shouldn't be like that, but everyone has differing ideas of what this system is for and how to work within it. I get to use my stake however I want, and I'll upvote your comment as I see fit, lol.

Ok. So, coming back to the comment— it sounds like you think that because the price is low, I want to just bow out and work less. That's not the intent of the ask, so perhaps it's not just tone deaf, but poorly worded. Most people, for many years, have asked me to make many proposals. They've asked me to do more marketing, or to find ways to convince everyone here to approve funds for paying exchanges, or a number of different types of things. I've spent all my personal funds, and worked for as absolutely long as I can without any pay, and gave up on storytelling as a creator for just earning rewards for my stories alongside you because of a lack of time for it, so it's not a threat or a promise to just... give up... if some funds aren't magically granted. The response would have been the same if I said, "okay, I'll keep going but only if you pay me going forward" because the fear around the markets and the future of alt crypto is terrifying, but that would be a lot more manipulative on my part, I feel. At the end of the day, I'll just have to tailor what I do day to day to the resources I have, and the proposal is an open feedback mechanism on whether the populace wants me to allocate more, or if they're not interested at this point. But working out ways to do more g2m or comms work on top of the biz dev stuff is part of working to find solutions, even if it's not agreed upon by such a diverse group on execution.

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that would be a lot more manipulative

I feel the opposite. I do a lot of work for free. If I don't set a price up front and get paid, I'm very grateful, but if I don't get paid after the work is done I don't feel put out about it, because I didn't state it would cost money up front. I do not think it's manipulative at all to state the pay for the work up front, and see no reason to claim it is.

You have done a yoeman's job representing Hive, and I feel your ask is justified. I just do disagree on this point, and feel very strongly you should state compensation for your work up front going forward. That isn't manipulative, but enables everyone to know what to expect.

sorry, to correct meaning here:
it would be manipulative NOW to present this conversation as "approve this or I stop everything and don't ever work again" versus, "the widest majority of feedback on and off chain for years was to approach some amount of backpay, and then set a set of goals for continuation, so this proposal is a gauge of whether or not you want me to do full time Hive work to the exclusion of all else for the next two or so years."

In this case, it's a bit of semantics based heavily on a few years worth of feedback across everyone asked and posts made on chain— use the depth of the work already done over a huge period as the basis for a few more years going forward at full time, which then allows for a greater scope of work which can be done in public and used to determine any pay to continue in the further future. I will keep doing it nonetheless, but the amount of work and types of tasks, given whether Hive becomes full time first priority or not, and the foundations for tracking/types of reporting/goalsetting/responsibilities will vary heavily based on the flexibility of whatever job would be the "support" for Hive work, and that's an unknown.

I appreciate the clarification.

Oh! I apologize again, out of courtesy, for being late in responding to your reply. Thank you for considering my comment, and as I said in it, I don't intend to diminish the support you give to HIVE. I simply offered my completely independent opinion based on my own reasoning and not influenced by anyone. In short, I usually speak from my own judgment, without getting into arguments, because that doesn't create a pleasant work environment. I've simply been enjoying what I've been doing for the past eight years, since I entered this virtual world, which, by the way, I love, and I give a lot of credit to my work as a creator of meaningful content, because I believe our blog is an opportunity to generate useful content.

So, my respect for your work, for the dedication you put into it with the sole interest of being useful to HIVE. Everyone knows their job and their role. I know times are difficult for everyone, but I've never thought you wanted to take advantage of the circumstances. I would never offer an opinion without evidence. When I read your proposal, I only thought about the current price of HIVE. That's all.

Sending you a virtual hug @crimsonclad.