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"Globe-head" scientists predict that a lunar eclipse will be visible across the western US during the early morning hours of January 31. The heliocentric globe model explains when, why, and how it will occur to extreme precision. Where is the flat earth explanation? You've got about 5 weeks, folks...
We in the sailing community have been using this method to calculate your distance at sea from the coast from your present postion ! As the height of the lighthouse visible on the horizon when standing up with binoculars can give surprsingly accurate results when saling off the coast ! Why indeed lighthouse are famously painted with alternate red or black and white stripes as this aids in the calculation when the height of the identified lighthouse is a known and reported fact in your coastal maritime guidebook, trusted friend of any old salt at sea ! Flatearthers are idiots that do need to fall off their planet and leave us normal thinking human beings alone to concentrate on more important isuues like, why is poisonous flouride added to our water !! ) great post upvoted @kerriknox
How close is the estimated distance (to the actual distance) when you're eyeballing it like that?
How do you know how much of the lighthouse is below visibility? I presume all lighthouses are not the same height......and...do you count the black and white stripes down as some kind of standardized measurement per stripe?
here check this and you will see how indeed that photo you published is a flat earthers worst nightmare as this is an age old method of measuring distance from a boat to the coast !!
http://www.skysailtraining.co.uk/dipping_distance.htm
Awesome example @gomeravibz. Great link too.
Yeah thanks @jasonbu ) this is the the one that will shut all these flatearther idiots mouths as there can be no denying history and the culture and knowledge of centuries of navigating on this round planet on the sea !!
What the skyline is missing is the 500ft statue of Michael Jordan that they never did get around to building...but he would have deserved it!
Other than that, a lovely exercise in reason, perspective and explanation!
People are still discussing if the earth is flat or not? ROTFL!
get over it already !
No. you got the wool pulled over your eyes my child.
Awesome share @KerriKnox
Could you please explain how refraction, which requires specific conditions and sharp changes in atmospheric conditions, as well as distinct angles of entry/exit of the different medium, is responsible for all cases of an object being much more visible than the curvature formula dictates? I have yet to see one clear example of a distant object cut off at the expected amount due to curvature WITHOUT refraction. Nor have I seen an example of an object cut off more than expected due to refraction in the other direction (can't use up or down since globers often confuse this with refraction) ie. opposite from the upward/downward curve of globers bendy light.
There is no reason for refraction to only bring objects up and never make them appear more behind a curve. In any case I've looked at, the hidden amount could be more easily explained by refraction on a flat plane than refraction on a sphere. Atmospheric lensing that occurs as a result of diffraction, if I understand it correctly, seems more likely to be the case for objects appearing partially obscured (but still not nearly as much as required for the Earth to be a sphere). This could be proven with a test with very precise distance measurements and a known FOV calculation for the image frame. Or a picture suggesting curvature with the moon in frame as well, gives a fairly accurate reference point for determining apparent angular size. If a distant object is magnified just 30%, 15% will be hidden behind the horizon. If there is any magnification present on the globe model, it works against the expected drop and should make distant objects disappear even closer. We never observe this. I'm curious if you are aware of Anthony Riley's recent video showing the Isle of Man in it's entirety from about 100 KM away. Mountains in Ireland can arguably be seen as well at a globe impossible distance of well over 200 KM. The fact is there are many examples where extreme refraction doesn't even come close to accounting for the missing curvature. The refraction excuse is not good enough for me, sorry.
@heathcarmody, you can't even debate the evidence presented by @kerriknox so you just ramble on about refraction not making sense to you. Its not a valid argument to just list some numbers and vaguely describe an experiment that should be performed when all available evidence points to a spherical earth.
Amazing post @kerriknox thanks for sharing
I have no idea.. this is interesting
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So in this so called " Proof " For Ball Globe " Pear ? " Shaped Earth
I'm disappointed the problem is people believe the crap you post.
Take a telescope and zoom in. Perspective proves FE no matter what.
You can argue angles refraction bla bla... You cant see a curve from 300k Feet in the sky and you trying to see a curve from here ? Cool Story. I am just waiting for some real Flat Earthers to come in here and Demolish you.
LOL. Excellent cult talking points and misrepresentation of the globe model without evidence or discussing the evidence presented. What a good little cult follower you are.