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RE: What is the standard model?

in #science9 years ago (edited)

I am sorry but this is so imprecise and so incorrect... I cannot upvote you this time. You should have a look to my old Standard Model post or all my particle physics posts for more accurate information...

Sadly, I will not take the time to show you the numerous imprecisions here... They are too many of them. I can imagine it is hard to popularize something you do not master, but please, make an effort... It hurts me to see my field of research treated in such a way! It deserves more than a short wikipedia summary!

PS: I almost fell from my chair when I read the first sentence and I hope you will make more efforts when trying to discuss particle physics in the future.

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Right from the first sentence? can you elaborate and give one or two examples about what is wrong in this presentation?

Hi Jako,

Sure. I can point to you my old posts here, here and there for more details. It is self advertising which I don't like... but well...

Now your explicit demand:

  • The Standard Model is not a collection of all what we know about quantum mechanics. The Standard Model is a quantum field theory, which is not quantum mechanics. Quantum mechanics is a branch of physics by itself. It applies to quantum computers, condensed matter systems, etc... Quantum field theory of course needs quantum mechanics, but is different. I will avoid any technical details. I guess the examples above are sufficient, aren't there?

  • There are not 17 different particles in the Standard Model but 29 different ones (if you allow me to speak in terms of particles).

  • Stating that the Higgs boson was predicted by the Standard Model does not have any meaning at all.

  • 'Many more are predicted like the particle that carries the gravitational force' is just wrong. There is no such a prediction in the Standard Model

  • The way matter is discussed is super sloppy.

  • We have learned a lot about the Higgs boson (I wrote to very long posts about that). Saying the opposite is an insult to my experimentalist colleagues.

  • etc., but I stop here.

If one of my students would introduce me the Standard Model like this, he would have failed the course. I like people popularizing what I work on, but then they should do more than summarizing wikipedia.

For more information, you can also ask me directly on the steemit chat (in #science for instance). I will be more than happy to participate to a live discussion.