RE: Seeking Reform for SSG-Community Voting Service

[silversaver888]

It goes without saying that we respect all the freedoms of every individual in our community, @buggedout.

Anyone can do whatever they please, post their precious metals articles wherever they want and what they deem best for their stake and that which will benefit them the most.

And where does that leave the Silver Gold Stackers Community page? Answer: It will be in the current state and situation that you have called for action from us to improve in the first place, will it not?

I am here every day. It is my observation that every SGS member who posts about precious metals already uses the #silvergoldstackers tag. The correct question to ask is: how can SGS encourage members to post in our Silver Gold Stackers community page. Isn't this what we want to accomplish? If not then what is the problem that you want to solve? Has @ssg-community ever done curation, other than put in auto-vote at a max of 7 articles a week those articles written by Silver Gold Stackers members who have subscribed to the @ssg-community service by paying into it by delegation or the equivalent in Hive? Whatever topic a subscriber of @ssg-community writes about and voted on by @ssg-community benefits both @ssg-community and the subscriber, even "shit posts".

Are you saying that posting from the Silver Gold Stackers Community is not critical, and it is sufficient to use the #silvergoldstackers tag?

While we agree on many important points in this discussion, I think that you have totally missed my entire point. Perhaps you have misunderstood the use of the Hive-136819 Silver Gold Stackers community and use of the tag #silvergoldstackers . #silvergoldstackers is NOT the community hive. It is just a tag, just like #sgslife and #ladiesogsgs4eva are just tags.

Check this out, @buggedout: https://hive.blog/created/hive-136819 See that your first article and this article which we are having this exchange right now, does not appear in Silver Gold Stackers Community page.

This one here: https://hive.blog/trending/silvergoldstackers is the unmoderated tag. The #silvergoldstackers tag is what we use for every article we write, precious metals or not. It takes keeps us together in one place. With the #silvergoldstackers, there is no need to use the #ssglife tag. The #ssglife tag came into place before the existence of the COMMUNITIES, and it was to keep the #steemsilvergold feed purely about precious metals... which is exactly what the Silver Gold Stackers Community is all about.

The community page is where we encourage, not a demand, precious metals article to be posted from because this is exactly what the community is about: PRECIOUS METALS!

The concept around community hives is that one may join a community as a guest or as a member of that community. These are some of the communities that SGS members use:

Please know that I fully understand your good intentions and where you are coming from. You have saved SteemSilverGold and readily stepped up to the plate to help us survive that turmoil. Without you, perhaps this community would no longer be here. Many of us who are aware of that are very grateful and will never forget. In this discussion, you and I know that there is no intent to disrespect anyone in our dear community, and at the same time, we do not want to marginalize anyone who may be silent in the background. As for myself, I dare will challenge anyone here to question my dedication, commitment, support, and love for this community. I have deliberately and actively inserted myself into this discussion to ensure that we are objective and balanced in our approach to improving this community. Also, I have to state that may not have the full picture of what is happening in the background because as an ordinary member of this community, I am not preview to anything that goes on within the "Leadership" and MODs of this community. I am personally always grateful and appreciative of their voluntary service to our community and realize that it may be a thankless job.

Thanks for your patience.

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[dfinney]

@silversaver888 You are no ordinary member! 🤗

As for this:

I am not preview to anything that goes on within the "Leadership" and MODs of this community.

Sure you are. Not much goes on. 😉

But basically:

• Welshie has maintained the bot and kept it working on two platforms. He keeps track of the liquid donations and delegations. Does the math to figure out how much each tier subscription costs. Makes sure the VP of @ssg-community stays in a good range. Organizes leases. Answers everyone’s questions about the bot and missed votes. He and I chat to make sure only members are benefitting from support. Like if a new member joins or a random tries to delegate without being a member. While not technically a mod I am sure he has put in the most work for all us since moving to Hive.
• Ray handled everything to get the steem round sorted. The ordering, the voting, keeping track of design submissions, working with the mint, collecting money and steem and crypto for the payments, sorting and mailing everyone’s orders. When tense situations happen from time to time Ray is always the one to sort it out. And of course he is a very hardcore stacker so is great at promoting the importance of silver and gold stacking. And he has done so many giveaways from his personal stack over the years to keep a community buzz going.
• I do administrative stuff like make discord channels and add roles to folks on discord. And update member lists in all the odd places they exist. Like the community page, the @myprecious following list, the autovote stuff from the @myprecious account before we moved to Hive. When someone nominates a new member I go look at the nominee’s posts (blogs and comments) to see what they are sharing and how they interact on the blockchain and in discord if they are there too. I have been slower with this stuff compared to 2019 just because this year has been a rough one.

That is the gist. 😁 We have each have kind of fallen into our own niche for things. So outside of general banter, we will consult one another mostly if we need help or advice.

😊

[thekittygirl]

And @vgholdingsllc does the Membership posts!

[silversaver888]

Thanks, sis @dfinney!🥰🌺🤙

[buggedout]

I actually agree that ideally we would have members using the community page and front end but I know that if we try and force that with this proposal then it will get even LESS support and will be voted down. That means ZERO reform.

So, I'll take the small improvement and would be happy to help you promote the community page as I still have hope that the community feature will be enhanced eventually to have better governance controls.

[silversaver888]

Less support from WHOM?
VOTED DOWN by WHO?

[buggedout]

By the members. The ssg-community account is an asset owned by the community so I am calling for a vote. If the members don't want these proposed changes then they don't happen.