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RE: SPS Governance Proposal: Brawl - Count all frays equally with examples about effects (tier 1-4)

in #splinterlands3 months ago

How about a rework on the brawl types so that the guilds CAN fill them? The alpha/beta/GF brawls kill the chances for an average guild to participate. Voting for a change to anything is pointless until those are reworked.

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Very doubtful that any proposal to get rid of specialized brawl frays would pass. These frays are what players are recruited for. If a guild doesnt have a member that can fill those frays, then they need to recruit to fill it. If this proposal passes, there's no penalty for the guild that doesnt fill the fray, only a benefit for the guilds that do.

That sounds like a penalty to me.

The question is what is a penalty - You will with this change in every case loose not even one point but can win a lot of points, so I think it is no penalty.

The other question is how it is in other teamsports ?
What if in soccer one team would come only with 9 player instead of 11 - You think they would tell the other team who has 11 player that they should take out 2 player and the match will be played with 9 against 9 player ?

Or in other sports like tennis, table tennis or chess where the team-events consist (mainly) from a addition of the single-results what will be happen if one of the teams will come with less player than they need - I think it is clear that they loose the matches where they have no player for - so I think it is not natural that you just cannot show up and get a draw (0:0) - IMO this is a design error, always it should be a match and if there is no match because one of the player don't show than the other win the point.

Lets say there is 10 guilds in the brawl and 9 guilds enter a payer in fray spot 6 and 1 guild does not. The proposal would award a win for all 9 guilds against the guild that did not enter. So effectively all nine guilds would go up the leader board in comparison to the guild that failed to enter. Clearly this system will penalize all guilds that are unable to fill spots.

"If a guild doesnt have a member that can fill those frays, then they need to recruit to fill it."

Or rent cards for this frays in the rental market.

You act as if there's sooo many liquid players w/o guilds that can fill GF frays, not everyone can afford to rent these sets either as it could cost more than potential earnings from the game. All this will be doing is forcing more guilds to move down in Brawl Tiers, & have even less guild liquidity in T3 & above. Our guild will most likely be moving back down to T2 because of this just after entering T3 a couple weeks ago. All this does is support the top 100 guilds and penalizes the majority. Been looking for guild members to fill GF frays for over a year and have not been successful. The amount of Frays required for GF are too extreme for the amount of players that can sufficiently fill them, to reiterate, most people in this economy cannot afford to pay out of pocket for these sets along with the current market conditions as earnings are quite minimal and hardly help with the cost of renting.

Basically all fays can be filled via ownership or renting. If your competitor is willing to invest via renting or owning they should be rewarded not you. There should be levels to everything and its voluntary, this nerfing the world attitude is uncompetitive and unhealthy.

First, as far as I know there isn't an Alpha/Beta-Fray anymore - I think he was changed to Alpha/Beta/Untamed what should IMO help a lot as you can play it now with cards from the Untamed Set.
Second, there are enough cards in the rental market so IMO you or your guildmates can just rent the cards you need.
Third, you are free to suggest in discord any change you want into the DAO-section OR run your own personal proposal.