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RE: Smart Media Tokens are coming

in #steem5 years ago (edited)

We already know they are "coming" theyve been "coming for years now? what about a steemit mobile app? @sneak promised that on STAGE actually lol

We have https://steem-engine.com sorry no one cares about SMTs because all the big projects waiting for SMTs already made a Steem Engine token, and it doenst automatically = success.... its humbled a lot of people... SMTs are not going to do anything more than Steem ENgine tokens have done so why not make some announcements about things we NEED like ONBOARDING?

Go help @steem.ninja and their https://invite.steem.ninja project which needs delegation and RC mana from accounts like @steem and @steemit and you know @ned you can get ned to plug in his RC mana to https://steeminvite.com and generate millions of new accounts a year for free instantly if we had a took, to automate that.... we need onboarding solutions.... the community is stuck trying to strugle to onboard, when steemit inc should be doing this, its a serious problem.....

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We need free accounts - amen! No.1 priority

And we have them. This was included in hf20

When I say free, I mean:

  • you come to steem-related website
  • you click sign-up
  • you get the account in a matter of minutes
  • account that works

Good idea, please go ahead and let us know what the url of that service is ;-)
If you can also deal with signup abuse, I could help with claiming accounts.

Spoiler alert: it's not that easy

(how would you handle resource consumption?)

I actually propose that we split accounts into two kinds: 1. On-chain accounts, 2. Off-chain accounts.

This works for Minds.com, which I believe is kicking our asses right now. At least, they are getting Youtube idols like Tim Pool...

Some things are just changes to condenser rather than the blockchain. Follows, resteems don't really need to cost RCs, and we could have off-chain comments that can't experience financial rewards.

This would allow the wider traffic to engage but still not be fully involved. Its like window shopping, and many people might jump on board eventually that would have been scared away by financial investment requirements.

It is kind of like how Medium does things. There is public Medium content and then the content that requires you to be a paying member to access. After seeing others get $0.08 all the time for just saying "your content is awesome!" maybe others will be willing to cough up some dough for a little STEEM.

Sign-up via FB, yahoo, google...
Abuse is checked by a simple parameter - when those accounts were created. @irelandscape / @stemq made such log-in last year

Don't worry about the abuse, there are no people willing to join :D
They also have no reason to abuse the system with multiple accounts, because economically it gives them no advantage.

Indeed it's simple:

  • those who want to comment once, @guest_Something_Something, public posting key, let them interact with the platform for free (no fee, no rewards, just a normal, boring internet)
  • those who want to sign-up can do it with the existing accounts, just like on every other serious platform

Let them join. Once they are hooked, think about the details.
2FA, private keys, how it works, they will learn in a month.
It's wrong to scare them off even before they join

its called https://steeminvite.com and @ned using @steem and @steemit RC mana he can create 5 million accounts a year but you must not have known that?

Not true. We have what is called blockchain subsidized account creation and you need what? 5K Sp? 4k? 6k? to create ONE account every 5 days.... real helpful.... sorry but need has to spend his own money to buy new accounts no way around it. unless next hardfork will lower the requirements, but ned and steemit inc were SUPPOSED to be paying for a solution to get rid of duplicates, a SIMPLE way is using what they USED rto use before giving up, reddit accounts with certain karma, or twitter or facebook accounts with certain activity, and yeah that can be abused, but its harder, theres no perfect solution BUT IS NOT OUR fucking jobs @g2g its steemit incs jobs lol typical weirdo response telling teh end user to do the work of steemit inc

There is a reason why you have lost so much money and steem is 40 cents.. dont try to tell me you hadnt wished you had stayed in BTC this whole time instead of steem.... but if @ned had focused on new users things could be different,m who KNOWS how many new investors and developers we could have gotten .... if ned would have spent a few million dollars a year onboarding... who KNOWS how many Millions he could have made....... steem is not in a vacuum

Yall' know what would be better? If it didn't cost so much fucking RC's to create an account in the first place. At this pace, even with the entirety of Stinc's SP ie RC's creating free accounts 24/7/365 they wouldn't be able to onboard millions of new users we are hoping to onboard once the floodgates open.

Typical Steemit logic :D

  • you have the account
  • and a bunch of power
  • now you can create new accounts every single day
  • when you absolutely don't need them

Analogy, thirsty man in Sahara. It's fine, we have invented water pipes, so you can drink once you are at home :D

We don't have transaction fees. Also, every new account has free RC for basic operations. Forever.
Solution is to keep potential users off-chain and onboard only those that will pay for it (literally or just by value added to the chain).

Solution is to keep potential users off-chain

you just lost the game LOPl why not just make a COINBASE account?

HEY I have a solution! Just WAIt for coinbase to add steem like they are about to, then steem users can just use COINBASE to hold their steem, and they can use a third party off chain site to log themin with username and password, no key, no protection from censorship just centralized nodes in control of everything yeah great solution :D

dude you are suffering from "depression sickness" where you honestly believe this is the best its gonna get, so instead of finding a way to feed everyone your seriously considering letting people just duie off, only feed thsoe who "add value" to steem LOl

who teh fuck are we to decide who is going to ultmitaly add value?

Ive seen users like @gigafart who were basically at $0 and i helped support them and because of my and a few others upvotes, they decide dto buy like at one poiunt over $30K USD worth of steem JUST ONE GUY.... I mean this is teh problem... we will NEVER know if we dont take teh chance and yeah a lot of peopel will get duplicate accounts.... steemiut icn ws givingf out free nstanta ccounts in 2017 untill trhey had to have a "waiting list" so SOMEOEN WAS subsidizing it at one point

HF20 has plenty of options but we need @ned or some whale to siupport @pharesim and https://steeminvite.com and @steem.ninja https://invite.steem.ninja which coudl expand with a lot more delegation, and more RCS put into steeminvite by @steem @steemit @xeroc @thejohalfiles etc whales who MAY or may not have some SP undelegated to use, very few whales left have undelegated fresh SP to use but many do and we can take advantage of that,a nd startr handing out steem accounts to KNOWN REDDIT users and start with handing teh accounts ouyt to known social media influencers and let THEM hand out the accounjts to their followers etc

Dead on accurate. They should be calling up all the Youtube big names, the Twitter journalists, actors/musicians and just say straight up that each of them will get an automatic free account with 50,000 SP delegated to them.

this is true! so that the added value steem we need new active users

They already gave us fast free accounts once. :)

memehub is a way to help onboard through memes. We plan to offer free steem acct creation for memers after using our site a certain amount. got a lot in the works for memes on steem

i almost thought this was spam the way you wrote this be careful lol just start with something more natural if i were you :D like "HEY that reminds me, MEMHUB!" lol

will u be the follow up to dmania ?

kk, ill take that into acct. Our system will be far better than the dmania platform and without the scammer part lol

oh come on dmania never scammed anyone, it had some script that was infected by a lot of similar software, he didnt put that in to make a few dollars or whatever,

Im not sure if this is sarcasm or not?

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