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RE: Why I am still skeptical about Hive: Response to "How Steem Became Hive" by lukestokes

in #steem4 years ago

In January 2019, lots of witnesses publicly wrote that they will not touch Steem Inc. accounts.

The ones that you quoted stated that they would not "alter" or "delete" any balances, not that transactions would never be ignored. No Steem account balances have ever been altered or deleted by any witnesses that are now here on Hive.

On the other hand, you and your cohorts made promises to never "freeze" any accounts...then went and did exactly that.

Focusing on what happened: I still do not understand how one can think of this as "not a theft or ransom". This is clearly taking someone's asset as a hostage and asking for a random, at best.

Again, nothing was "taken" by any of the witnesses currently on Hive. Everyone on Steem still has access to their Steem balances...except the users that you have frozen, of course.

And if you believe that freezing accounts is theft or ransom, then you are currently participating in theft and/or ransom. So what you are complaining about in regards to soft fork 22.2 - even though your understanding of it is flawed - you are actually doing on Steem with actual user monies. If you are claiming that these are criminal actions, then you are a criminal.

No mention of using "confiscated" Steem Inc.'s tokens (and potentailly airdrop excluded tokens) in steem.dao account to "fund" Hive.

Nothing was "confiscated" from Steemit Inc. or any other Steem account. As stated, no Steem account had any of their balances touched when the Hive fork occurred. The new chain is not the old chain and balances could be changed via the hard fork code. The new chain created new tokens and those tokens were distributed as stated in the fork announcement. Nobody on Steem lost anything. Nothing was taken.

If you had no Hive at the time of the fork, then you could not have lost it. Simple logic. I would suggest learning about how ownership actually works.

And just to be clear...

It was your SCT group via @proxy.token that effectively held the Steem blockchain for ransom while the threat of a hostile takeover was in full play. And your group did this because you wanted to selfishly push code changes that would benefit your group and its long-standing scheme to milk rewards from the Steem blockchain.

You used your proxy votes to assist in the attempted centralization of Steem in order to get things that you couldn't otherwise get through actual consensus. I warned your group in your chat that this was ransom, that it was a terrible idea, and that it would backfire. Did any of you listen? Nope.

And now you're all throwing a little temper tantrum because you voted against decentralization and got what you deserved for doing so...which was no free tokens on Hive - a blockchain that wants to ensure that it is and remains decentralized. So if you think that using centralized control to freeze user accounts will somehow open negotiations to receiving tokens here in Hive, then I must say...you're a fucking moron.

You and the people in your group that voted for centralization and continue to use ransom tactics will get nothing from Hive. And that's precisely what you've earned. Better to accept the consequences of your actions and move on because you'll get no sympathy here.