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RE: Update: Communities/Hivemind

in #steem8 years ago

I don't like this direction of defaulting a big part of the information and interaction outside of the blokchain. We already, compare to other blockchains, have a low number of full nodes or decentralized way to access the blockchain. Most users access the blockchain only through steemit.com. I am not even speking about the API that stop everything when it is down.

It just feels like one day, we will just forget the blockchain and use only a database because it is faster.

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You can't easily compare Steem to other blockchains in this regard because it's more advanced and much more utilized. Launching specialized services which are tuned for a specific purpose will help hugely. Developers can run their own hive instances, much lighter than putting everything in a steemd node. And more users can run their own node because they will not be so heavy. Separating concerns allows you to run just the components you need, as opposed to 1 monolith, which would be cost-prohibitive.

Yea. Something that me and my open source community can do! I've wanted to help out with the blockchain, though never figured out how I could. Now I know. Thank you @Roadscape for all of the great work and the updates! And ... real quick, do I have permission to test this on Microsoft IIS running Python with the HTTP Platform Handler module? If I can get it to work, my community, StormlightTech (sorry, we don't have a Steem account yet), will become the official supporters of that configuration if you'd like

It just feels like one day, we will just forget the blockchain and use only a database because it is faster.

This is an unfounded feeling; Steem cannot exist without the blockchain -- unless for some reason the community wants to get rid of posting rewards and go completely against founding principles.

Steem can exist without a blockchain. I mean, facebook can very well create rewards in their system and even go as far as back it by the shares of facebook Inc (you like, you get some shares). You really don't need a blockchain for that.

This raise the question, does Steem need a blockchain?
I value a lot the censorship resistance and I think we will see a newspaper on steem at some point. Does anyone else care about that? I think Nope.
Decentralization is another issue. I view the witness production more decentralize than Bitcoin/Ethereum with less than 10 pools that decide everything. As for the access to the blockchain, that is where I am uncomfortable. We are building a system where the main entry point will be steemit(website, api, ...). It bothers me but it doesn't seem to bother much people around here.
But users care about the reward system, more than anything. The reward system doesn't need a blockchain or doesn't need everything to be on the blockchain.

Facebook or reddit can do that but they become a custodian which requires license/$$$. The other important feature of Steem is decentralized evolution of stake distribution. I would say the reward system does require a blockchain.

@roadscape I have to speak with you on important topic please reply to this comment then we can start.

But @roadscape, if you do decide to interact this way.... Please consider checking out my Steemit community project would you? :D It's a good idea (I think)... I haven't tried appealing to whales 'til recently as I have been trying to get organic growth, but no luck yet. Been around Steemit for a year. Here's a link to The EN community's recent blog on Steemit: https://steemit.com/fitness/@the-en/the-en-main-exercise-center. Would really appreciate any help. Cheers.
PS It's tough to get an audience. heh

I have a feeling that's not going to start the conversation you want to have :(

How do you message privately? I am having difficulty with undelegate to minnowbooster.. i.e. 1 day ago
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steem still showing as delegated? thank you

I know im necroing and even though i agree with you, it would be great to see this answer expanded on in more detail.

I care very much about the API being decentralized as well; needs to support all environments (Steemit Windows 10 UWP app, anyone?), and needs to support all forms of communication; microblogging (imageineSteem taking over Twitter!)