Better Auditing Process
Spam comments
Let’s assume a user does post 10,000 comment months and it’s just the same message. Is there a reason why Steemit cannot do a weekly/daily audit to find this in their own database and pull 100% of their delegation to those accounts? Spammers will always find a way around things but if they are having there delegation pulled so they are sitting at 0 SP or let’s say .01 how often are they going be able to use the network? They will have to invest to be able to keep up their operations or be very hinder greatly won’t they?
Assuming they do this daily and eventually they have hardened the sign up process to cut down on how many accounts a day these people get to make.
Same named accounts
If the users can find them I would assume someone who understand how to do quarry searching in the database could find Account1 Account2, Account3 and silly named things like that.
Again, why should they get to have delegation from Steemit? It should be rather clear one there 10’s to 100’s of them that something not right here and the system should not be supporting whatever they are up to with delegtion.
Upvoting
If an account never makes any blogs or comments is there any reason they should be getting to continue to use the delegation they get from Steemit? It seems odd if they are not producing anything that they should just get to keep free SP to use as they wish. I think of many 500-1k upvote botchains out there that only do one thing and if they had no SP that make them worthless.
Other types of spam
One strange thing I’ve seen with a lot of new accounts. First thing they do is go out and spam follow 1000’s of accounts. What kind of impact does this have on overall ecosystem if in terms of resources used to facilitate these massive feeds they are getting from following all these people? Does it not make more sense to limit accounts under 500 SP to 500 people they can follow?
If I think of scalability this seems to be a possible issues down the road is it not for the servers? I start to wonder when we one day see 10 million accounts what this will do if someone is following 1 million people themselves while only having starting SP delegated to them by Steemit.
The example of 10,000 comments that are exactly the same was a little bit over-simplified. A lot of the spammers are doing it in a way that is not very easy to detect. A lot of the spam is in a 'gray area' that does not necessarily warrant getting their delegated SP taken away. The real question is - are the comments people are making actually adding value?
There is another thread on this within the post. I replied to that there.
That is an arbitrary requirement. What about users who just want to view content and curate?
Agreed, it would probably be good to put some form of limit on this, but as far as blockchain resources - this operation actually causes very little "bloat". It is a pretty small problem compared to the resources that spam comments take up.
One question I do have is how much are spammers even making in a week? Does anyone even have a ballpark or data points for such thing? Is this even $500 a week issue outside of spammers doing voting circles that get hunted down by people like Spaminator?
We are assuming having a $1 threshold would even be doing more good than bad. Out side of the major abusers that land themselves on comment trending or surpass such a threshold anyways. Its hard to even know if such a dramatic measure is even worth.
I'm not even sure how someone would even try and find this out. I'm sure people with right skills can easily find out how many comments are under 1$ and that total per week is. Trying to determining how much of that is going to spammers I have no idea how they work that out.
You have any thoughts on this @paulag?
@patrice may have some data on that.