What are the odds Ned didn't tumble enough steem to control the fork, too?
We did turn him on to the possibility.
He would have been blind not to see it.
This new chain gonna vote out the cancers, or embrace them?
Because, I guarantee they will be there, day one.
It would be ridiculous to fork to a different chain and leave the cancer there, growing away. My money is on a fork where the Steemit plague no longer exists.
who defines "cancer" in this new fork?
My mom and dad do.
this qualifies to be in the top 10 replies in the history of the internet! that shit made me laugh so hard:) > I hope others read through the comments section and have the same reaction.
lol. I am glad that I could make someone laugh. People are taking some of this shit too serious right now and expect everyone to have all the answers to all their questions. My parents are the only ones that know it all.
I imagine the ones running the software on their computers.
You do. @ats-david does. @freebornangel does. Probably the cancer will too. Nothing like a bit of chaos to get things off to a good start, eh?
I would argue that the people devoting the resources to coding and running the fork are the ones who can and will likely decide which accounts are the "cancer" that needs to be removed. Then we can decide if we agree and want to follow them on their new fork.
It's all about free association. I would hope that the community would agree about what is the "cancer," but there's always a risk of them not agreeing.
We all have choices to make here. Decide for yourself what is best for you.
Well, as you point out we can only associate with available mechanisms. For instance Steem. Is Steem perfect? No, not at all, and in fact we can see just how broken it is today. Will what's available be perfect? No. Let's just hope it's better.
But I think the question asked was valid. Who defines better? Hopefully the community does, and increasingly so going forward. Folks with the skills to make the platforms communities will choose between can do what @dantheman and @ned did, and enable golden parachutes like the founder's stake and dooming platforms, but if more choices arise, better platforms will win the communties.
We are seeing what golden parachutes do to communities, and it ain't pretty.
Consensus?
It was a rhetorical question...
Posted using Partiko iOS
But how do we identify the stake Ned embedded in case stinc stake went poof?
I may be wrong (though I doubt it), but I would guess Ned has been far more interested in lining his pockets with dirty fiat than hiding stake on Steem. If he actually had any interest in Steem, he would have actually invested in building it instead of looting most of the funds, and then lying (or hiring someone to lie for him) about needing layoffs, slow development, no marketing, and "survival model" due to being out of money
Any hidden stake is stake he could sell with no accountability whatsoever. No reason to think that he didn't.
That supposition holds much water, how do we find out?
There are only 300m coins, seems we could track large chunks of them pretty easy.
I was wondering how poloniex ripped off 12m steem without a peep from the community.
Looks like they bought them from Ned.
We had that chance and lack of decisiveness has us here.
Some may call that prudence.
As it is now, we have to win under the current rules, or stunc has to outrage public decency, again.
Either works, for me.