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RE: Overview of Steem delisting on Poloniex, market trends and whats needed going forward

in #steem5 years ago

Setting up the SBD feed price at an absurdly high level doesn't make sense. However, SBD does have scarcity and I do think the speculative rally of SBD beginning in November 2017 had to do with how high STEEM went a bit later.

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Its not about setting some high number, its about reflecting the price feed on the exchange they are pulling it from. Some witness have a bias of taking the lower price or setting a default price whenever it goes above. I do hope folks realize its serious time. We lose Bithumb or Upbit, the ship goes with it. Something has to give.

You must be talking about how the feed price was kept at $1 during the SBD pump in Dec 2017 and the better part of 2018. Is that the case? How would it help to let the feed price of SBD to float with the spot price on the markets? Please walk me through that.

There was actually a small group of us who were actually using the internal market to absorb the Steem. This was actually post 2017, this was actually February 2018 once we realize the dumping is to much for the market to absorb but one witnesses in particular encourage witnesses to set a bias. The end result was precisely what we are experiencing now. The dump of Steem on the market cannot be absorb as there aren't enough buyers. The same thing was tried again in April but by then it was pointless as the dump was to intense and the Asians were effectively flag off the platform. Haejin actually start pump it in his group as he smell whats coming, folks actually think of him wrong as a selfish whale but he single handed has been pumping Steem and SBD in his group. Well we know the story with him, he basically got flagged out. Contrary the belief the guy resisted dumping, I am still puzzled with him. Well the burial was the increase SBD to 10%, so they haven't really learned anything. Even with these changes, its the same set of people making money and the useless flagging, you got to let minnows grow and feel part of the process rather than targeting folks with these flags. You can actually follow the charts and see what been taking place. I know folks want high Steem price but there is just to much Steem in circulation and the market cannot absorb the dump that's why the trend has been like that, the only time it jump ahead, SBD was the anchor but folks don't see it that way.

There was actually a small group of us who were actually using the internal market to absorb the Steem.
This was actually post 2017, this was actually February 2018 once we realize the dumping is to much for the market to absorb but one witnesses in particular encourage witnesses to set a bias.

At that time, a lot of STEEM was bought by a large number of authors who chose to get 50% as SBD. Because SBD was between $2 and $4 the whole spring, that meant relatively cheap STEEM.

The end result was precisely what we are experiencing now. The dump of Steem on the market cannot be absorb as there aren't enough buyers.

When STEEM went to > $8 in early January, of course it was going to be dumped! In the first half of 2018, there was still a lot of demand of STEEM, relatively speaking. It didn't go down in a crash but like a balloon that had a small hole in it.

The same thing was tried again in April but by then it was pointless as the dump was to intense and the Asians were effectively flag off the platform.

From a TA perspective, the late April pump was a pretty commonplace thing after the huge January pump.

Haejin actually start pump it in his group as he smell whats coming, folks actually think of him wrong as a selfish whale but he single handed has been pumping Steem and SBD in his group. Well we know the story with him, he basically got flagged out.

Haejin couldn't have pumped STEEM single handedly. SBD maybe but not STEEM.

Contrary the belief the guy resisted dumping, I am still puzzled with him. Well the burial was the increase SBD to 10%, so they haven't really learned anything. Even with these changes, its the same set of people making money and the useless flagging, you got to let minnows grow and feel part of the process rather than targeting folks with these flags. You can actually follow the charts and see what been taking place. I know folks want high Steem price but there is just to much Steem in circulation and the market cannot absorb the dump that's why the trend has been like that, the only time it jump ahead, SBD was the anchor but folks don't see it that way.

The mad early 2018 pump was the very reason SBD was printed in excess. Burning those coins did a number on STEEM when the Debt Ratio was approaching 10%. STEEM was pushed even lower than it otherwise would've.

This is actually a beautiful response, now you understand how the difference shape out and everyone takes a different conclusion.

What is important now is to recognize this is crunch time, the reality Steem trading volume isn't attractive to exchanges to bear the risk and by all means we have to preserve the status on exchanges like Bithumb and Upbit. We lose those exchanges and the ship goes with it.

What can Steem do right now to kick a little energy into it? What tools does Steem platform has at its disposal to get things going. I also believe Steem needs a VC to back it and some additional source of investment. Folks need to see some sort of financial warchest being built. I see a lot of fancy proposal and blogs of ways forward but no one is talking about MONEY. Investment is vital for survival

I agree with you on this one. Investment is a huge part of the ability of a startup like Steemit, Inc to survive. Having a financial war chest is essential. Under Ned's watch, the finances of Steemit must have been badly neglected. A platform with some tens of thousands of weekly active users at best had a market cap of almost two billion dollars at best. Steemit, Inc must have wasted a shitload of money during the bull run. They've been making a lot of progress in the last year and managed to generate enough ad revenue to stop auto-selling for a month this year. What they should've done during the bull market when they were awash with money is to hire the best possible talent to work on the core blockchain software and do their best to prepare for the inevitable bear market. They have got much of the job done by now but now we have to pray that the new bull run we're at an early stage of will save our asses.