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RE: Remember, 25% more vote power after HF21

in #steem5 years ago

Your theory is sound, just like the theory of communism, socialism and democracy is sound. It remains to be seen as to whether it will actually work that way when implemented.

Personally, it won't make me want to use downvotes any more than I already do, which is pretty much never. My upvotes do the job for me. If I don't think something should have rewards, I don't give it any and if I think it's under valued, then I'm going to give it 100% and might even resteem it.

I think a trending page with different algorithms would do much more than making downvotes more attractive. A post like this one gets a lot of conversation and activity going, so if that activity were included in the algorithm, then it would be up there. Some posts are great, but its hard to say anything more than, "great post!" so if the algorithm can also take into account the amount of upvotes it's getting and from which sources (ie. the quality curators) then that could still be up there.

Whether or not you like the traditional social media sites, when it comes to the trending algorithms, they're doing it right. I landed on Reddit for the first time a month ago, and got drawn into the recommendations, with all the conversation that was happening there. It's not a conversation I wanted to get into (roasting isn't my thing), but it was addictive. So I simply put a block on notifications for it. I can't even remember how I did it, it was that simple.

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Your theory is sound, just like the theory of communism, socialism and democracy is sound. It remains to be seen as to whether it will actually work that way when implemented.

Which is why it needs to be trialled. Since all econoies have failed so far "communism, socialism and democracy" and we are trying to do something different and succeed - it is going to take trial and errors. luckily, this is possible on Steem if people stop thinking like they live in a government of "communism, socialism and democracy" and act the same.

Personally, it won't make me want to use downvotes any more than I already do, which is pretty much never. My upvotes do the job for me. If I don't think something should have rewards, I don't give it any and if I think it's under valued, then I'm going to give it 100% and might even resteem it.

keep an eye on abuse at least.

I think a trending page with different algorithms would do much more than making downvotes more attractive.

It isn't enough because authors want to get paid from the pool but a great deal of the pool is going to crap that will should never appear anywhere near trending. Hard to advertise success if the content that should get rewarded, isn't.

Whether or not you like the traditional social media sites, when it comes to the trending algorithms, they're doing it right.

The way Steem interfaces do this is up to them, the way Steem does it is up to us. With the incoming tokenized experiences, authors have more ways to earn than ever yet, everyone still wants it out of the Steem pool. How many bought into PALnet in the hopes that it would turn into a place for content producers? about the same number who bought into Steem originally probably. Not many. Same processes over and over, many people don't want to invest in their future but still want to have support for it.

It isn't enough because authors want to get paid from the pool but a great deal of the pool is going to crap that will should never appear anywhere near trending. Hard to advertise success if the content that should get rewarded, isn't.

Yet with different algorithms, that crap wouldn't reach trending. Then, as less of it reaches trending, then the drive to get the price high enough for trending disappears, because its not the price that's dictating it.

The way Steem interfaces do this is up to them, the way Steem does it is up to us.

Yet the Steemit interface is still often the first interface that people encounter. Can people now sign up for an account via another interface without actually having to go through the Steemit one at all? If so, that would be good. At the moment, most people find out about the interfaces after starting on the Steemit one. How many have turned around and not even bothered getting an account after seeing the Steemit trending page?

I'm most curious how the new curve will affect rewards for comments. Will they mostly all be dusted? What do you think?

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then the drive to get the price high enough for trending disappears, because its not the price that's dictating it.

it is not their drive to reach trending (other than some of the app announcements), their drive is the profits.

Can people now sign up for an account via another interface without actually having to go through the Steemit one at all?

Yes, there are a number who are creating accounts nowe including @steemmonsters and partiko i think.