I'm not trying to be a jerk here, and I encourage innovation in this space, but I won't be voting on this post. It's grossly overpaid for the effort that was put forth.
This bothers me for the following reason:
- No credit was given to the tools you're embedding in an iframe.
- No permission was given from these tool authors for anything like this.
- This post has earned (in some cases) 500 times more than what some of the original authors of those tools have earned. That feels unjust.
I'd encourage you to add value to the community and learn, but I'm not sure this fits either of those criteria.
Thank you so much for speaking my mind, @jesta! Originally I was going to keep to myself about this, but since one of the great devs here that I look up to has spoken, I feel compelled to do the same.
In terms of effort, I don't mean to brag, but even my grade school self back then knew how to slap together a few iframes on a standalone webpage in a few minutes, half hour max. I'm not here to argue about value, because that is subjective, but grossly overpaid is correct.
My latest tool released 11 hours ago has gotten fantastic feedback from lots of users for solving a problem that many have been having for as long as they've been on Steemit, but the potential payout is not even close to this, at 31 cents. It's not about the money for me, but just for the perspective, this post is 2400x more!
I'm not hating, this is your idea, you thought of it, and it is a great idea. Just... sighh
</rant>I did spend a while doing everything, over two hours, but I see your point. You guys should be the ones making more than me. I just saw steemtools.com and thought it would be a good idea to make something where it was iframes instead of just links.
I've seen projects that are very complex to code and go unnoticed. I am sure they take more than two hours to put together. I would say multiple days and nights, 6+ hour long sittings perhaps. Weeks even. Again, yours was a nice idea.
Yeah, those people really should be getting more credit. The things that pay are the idea and the code, but the complexity should have a say in the payment too.
Yeah holy crap this does some excessive for a few iframes.
Even failed at basic things like putting a usable link to the site.. No offence @joshglen but I wont be voting for this one.
All the devs know how effortless this is to put together, but I can imagine for non-devs this would seem really cool to have all the tools on the same page. It would seem @furion, a fellow dev, has downvoted this haha!
Effortless? I had to do some difficult research and learn css along with how to use iframes. I don't know html well at all, and I had to look up how to do most of these things. The height of the iframes was constantly messed up. Some websites refused to show up. I spent over 2 hours putting this together. Yes, maybe I was overpaid. But it was nowhere near as "effortless" as you put it. I made this tool because it did seem to cool to have it all one site. Thank you, however, for not downvoting.
My bad. That was the wrong word to use. I meant it relatively compared to what other developers do. Years of learning and perfecting their skill. I do applaud you for learning html and css from scratch. Most people would just use a web builder and never have to go through that. But compared to more advanced topics html and css is very basic and is second nature to devs doing web apps. Congrats. No hard feelings.
I am replying to your other comment, as Steemit does not allow such long reply threads. I suppose that I overreacted a bit, it's just that I only had a little experience using html and css, so as a beginner this project was not that easy. For someone with years of experience, I do agree that they could have put this together really quickly.
I suppose that I understand your point. I did learn, a lot about how to use html as this website took over two hours to build due to numerous errors. Also, I thought it would be nice for the community to have a tool like this. I see your point however. The original devs should be earning a lot more than me. Thank you for not downvoting.
The learning itself is great, and I always want to encourage everyone to learn new skills. Two hours though is not a long time - especially for what was accomplished. For an anyone with a few months of experience, that page would have taken 5 minutes. The reason no one has yet is simply because it's not a good idea.
As your skills grow in web development, you'll soon learn how tools like these aren't really all that nice. The iframe solution you implemented to pull up all those pages has a laundry list of technical problems behind it - and is a huge hinderance to anyone that actually might be using it.
We are in agreement, and I know it's not your fault that you got voted on. You shared and thing and it got votes. I just spoke up because I wanted people to realize that they need to think about what they're voting on. Those who voted here really should go find the authors of those tools and give their posts some love.