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RE: Meet Steem's #1 Author!

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For the record...

A bribe absolutely requires quid pro quo by definition.

There was no quid pro quo here. This is a sales tactic used in marketing, soften the target with a gift. It's distinctly different than an offer that requires quo to get your quid.

This may be a semantic argument, but I think we should call it what it is, a sales tactic not a bribe. You can't have a bribe when you are allowed to keep the quid and not even respond to the quo request at all.

It's not really spam either, because if spam came with a $15 reward for doing nothing, we'd all be like "gimme more of dat spam".

It's a marketing tactic, and he's an internet marketer. I suspect that alone is enough to turn you off, as I've noticed a lot of other people with a similar opinion (honestly, including myself).

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We can debate around this for hours. I was born in a country where corruption is endemic and a lot of the "gifts" are kept without doing the requested thing, as nobody will try to announce that he tried to bribe someone. For me, this marketing tactic is acting as a bribe. The "gift" is to influence one on the decission of doing something, which could have been done freely till then.

According to Merriam Webster Dictionary a bribe is:

1
: money or favor given or promised in order to influence the judgment or conduct of a person in a position of trust police officers accused of taking bribes
2
: something that serves to induce or influence offered the kid a bribe to finish his homework

Also I thank you for the constructive comments.

I was being a bit of a pedant. I still don't think this is a bribe because what is given is given freely before any chance of whether there will be a reward is known.

However, if you had used the word "corruption", I wouldn't have made this objection. Not that I'm saying it is or isn't, but I wouldn't have pointed this out.

If you called it "vote-buying" or maybe "pandering" (an option with a negative connotation), I would have been 100% unable to do anything but agree.

See what I mean about me having a penchant for playing Devil's Advocate?

Ok, let's put it as vote-buying from whales. Pandering would be to redlightish for the level of the discussion we are having here.

Gladly to find common sense.

As I said you can initiate a bribe and the guy can keep it without delivering it, but this is another part of the story.

There ought to be a term for a failed bribe that gets kept with no reward.

"The idiot tax" is already taken by the lottery here in the US...

Great discussion @lexiconical and dont you find it interesting how Reddit never really had any issues with self upvoting but the secondmoney is involved, and its steemit where you get PAID for the upvotes , then it becomes a whole dramaabout fairness but people never cared when it was for wothless karma but when it bcomes real money its all of the sudden a big deal becauyse people are all secret;ly just jelous! they want to convincethemselves its not fair, so they can justify their not making much money here , or so it seems XD haha lol its funny tome, like, i never ever heard of people on reddit arguing about some of this stuff, but as son as steemit comes alonga nd actually pays people in steem and that steem is actualy worth real Bitcoin then people freak out! But what is funny is that the STEEM that is CREATED is created BECAUSE of the whales and their steempower and thats how a proof of stake copinw orks rwhere you get to make more coins over time if you hold coins and hah these outsiders trying to argue that its not fair to pay certain peopel certain way on a platform that they had nothing to do with building or spporting, its just funny, its so ... i dunno its like someone coming to your company and getting hired and then trying to tell the boss how to pay his employees or something.... because the writers here no matter what content they produce, are all producing content and that si what gets clicjked and is why peopel come here and use the site and the whole idea of the site is to be a social media experience so when you have people dedicating tgheir time to posting content here and you see them getting paid, thats the platform actually working and when peopel dont even question the idea of wether steem token has value or not, when peple just would rather fight OVER the tokens themselves, then that is a GOOD thing :) I would ratherpeopel fight over the tokens (becauyse they ARE valuable) then fighting over wether or not the tokens have any value at all!

In that way, steem has already won the hardest battle and I feel like that accomplishment should not be overlooked

anyway great respoonse lexiconical! I loved your response justr wanted to add to the story here!

See you in #trending !

"In that way, steem has already won the hardest battle and I feel like that accomplishment should not be overlooked"

Great point. The fact that Steem is valuable enough that people are willing to flag and fight over it is, perversely, sort of a good thing!