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RE: SubSteem

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

Although it's an interesting idea, it's unclear if this would truly add value to the platform or confuse & divide the user base. I've thought about this model at length, and my gut tells me it's more confusing and dividing than anything. What is the goal or the problem are we trying to solve? It's possible there are more effective methods to solve the same problem

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I would just like steemit.com to allow to subscribe to tags at least the same way it does with people.

Only once is a while, (5-15 min a day) do I check to the main reddit, and that's usually either to learn about what the herd is talking about (major world news) or to watch funny and cute pictures of animals.
At this stage Steemit excel in neither of those.

I created this very simplistic issue that doesn't offer a clear solution but I think it expose a very real and obvious problem.
https://github.com/steemit/steemit.com/issues/704

I agree with you that it's complicated and has the potential to divide the user base. Maybe the goals of this idea could be addressed in some other way.

The main goal here is to define different reward rules for different types of posts, rather than one-size-fits-all. Other goals:

  • A post that is time sensitive, like news, should not have a 30-day payout.
  • Other languages could have the opportunity to have their own voting pool on the same blockchain (rather than fork their own blockchain).
  • For long-form posts or fiction, some authors might not mind extending their initial payout out to 30 days or longer.

Because they are separate reward pools, it seems like it would be difficult to get consensus to make these reward pools pay in STEEM. It seems like it's easier to just create new tokens with their own pools. Since graphene supports User Issued Assets, it seems like a natural fit.

And since they are their own tokens, they'd need an internal market to set their value. Anyway, that's the progression.

I think if we could simplify it for the non-technical users like my grandmother(not that she is on here). This can get a bit confusing to get around all these different ways you can find success on the platform.

While I don't agree with the confusing parts of the above post (multiple currencies, reward pools, etc), I do think that a little division on steemit.com is something you guys should consider if you're attempting to foster the growth of smaller communities within the site.

If the goal with steemit is just to have one huge community, then disregard and keep on with tags only :)

Sub-steems are a definite future!

Just not sure they each need their own token as it's proven they can be be driven by social desires.

Native blockchain assets - and their incentives - and their websites, such as Steemit - are like boardgames. The game can be designed in different ways, but we don't want to have a thousand different rule sets included in one game because that would make the game too complicated. In a recent @steemitblog post, however, we outline a case for two new aspects to the game's rules - 1. That comments must take a piece of the author/curator rewards. 2. That short posts must take a piece of the author/curator rewards and 3. Medium/long posts must take a piece of the author/curator rewards. In the spirit of this thread, these new rules by themselves should open the game up to be even more playable while not making it all that much more complex.

So maybe, substeems could be common, as tier 1, but the separate token and reward pool is only enabled when an entire community forms around a particular substeem, as tier 2.

For example, say we have a substeem called /s/cn for China. It gets popular enough in its own community that it'd need its own reward pool (and hence, its own token) because stakeholders outside of /s/cn tend to ignore it.

This should allow us to avoid forking into new blockchains.