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yes thinking how i get ledge if i facing other way.

You need to have a look at that, for me it's a upward spin which helps but don't think id make it without having a jump ready.

yea i must look at it i think you have easier to recover from there then i.

Maybe as I think you cover more ground but think I can go higher not that I think it will help with recovery.

Think i cover small more space yes but why you not think your higher recover no help you?

I feel it could be a little more predictable and so a easier target.

maybe so what you think bow and arrow?