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RE: Critical Update! Abusers will be punished!

in #steemit7 years ago

is delegating forbiden or delegate most of sp is forbiden. I delegate 2 people from my community to support them and its not much. You need to say a number like %20 and more or something. Because delegating to someone is not always for abusing you know. But its good to hear a protection for abusers. Thanks for that.

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I agree with @zoltarian. It is not only for abuse reasons that someone delegates. I also delegate, but it is OK for me to have upvotes after the remaining SP that I have and I can contribute you folks with. But to have 0 shadow rank? well,​ it seems a bit cruel... I am with @shadowbot for a long time and I really like it, I had and still have absolutely NO intention to abuse it.

We so far have only identified 1 user that we feel abused our system. As a witness delegating away the majority of their Steem Power it felt right to call that to attention. Why should someone who effectively has delegated 90%+ of their SP to "game the system" not be punished? We are VERY cautious to do this that is why it takes so long to in the first place, false punishment is not our goal! Our goal is identifying those who attempt to abuse us. If you delegated 100 SP of your say total 10,000 that is not something we even would dream of being trying to abuse us. IF however you delegated 9,850 away what are we supposed to think when you KNOW you are getting rewarded for the full amount? If you wanted to delegate all your SP away you should know you are cheating our system.

A solution can be in my opinion to reward everybody after the ACTUAL SP (remaining after delegations) and not after the total SP. This way this type of abuse is cleared out.

That is the design from day 1. Your REAL effective usable SP is what should have been counted. An oversight in our system allowed users to abuse this and effectively send more than 90% of their SP away to others while still getting credit for the total amount with us. This was NEVER meant by design and MOST users never tried to do this. It was not until a few members decided to delegate 90%+ of their SP away and other members noticed and reported it to us that we fixed it. This is patched, and can not happen again, HOWEVER, we feel as a witness doing this to us, it was not a mistake. They KNEW they were abusing the system and got caught doing it.

All right, this system is fair in my opinion.

Delegating SP is fine, but when you run a witness and delegate over 90% of your SP away having less than 500 effective SP you should not be rewarded. Our system had a bug and a few users were intentionally abusing that. Those who were will be detected and dealt with.

Thanks for the answer. That was a relief. I'am using shadowbot more than 2 months now and love it. But I've got upset when I saw that abusers and it's good to hear everyone will take what they deserve.

@zoltarian lately a lot changed in shadowbot and hardly it put any impact. My 100 % voting are going out to many accounts, whereas I am receiving null, hardly 2 -3 upvotes ocassionally

I can see in casters there is lots of people with less than 30 SP and more than 5 pool priority. I think thats another problem. We need to think about that too.