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RE: Flag Wars?! Ohhhh I'm Coming 2x as Hard for ALL of you!! **PLEASE WATCH STEEMIANS**

in #threespeak5 years ago

and the idea of ​​a downvote as a business model is a pure failure.

What the fuck are you talking about? we stand to gain nothing from downvoting abusers and milkers except for wasting endless time on shit like this and getting downvotes back. Go cry to haejin about your shit getting downvoted instead of sharing your stake with other people and participating in honest curation.

There's nothing wrong by voting on family members or friends but doing it constantly with most stake regardless of content is not what the rewardpool is there for hence downvote mana was introduced.

Anyway, I really don't have time to reply to your justifications and delusions. Some people here are trying to do exactly what you claim we should be doing; creating projects and initiatives to bring in new users and raise the utility of Steem than just circlejerking rewards onto each other while the value just continues to drop and no one even knows about Steem.

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That and I say, nothing gets off the downvote, no one earns. The circle of voters remains the same as if they were the subjects of the stronger players and the essence does not change. Most of the posts are without substance, no one should say anything because free thought is being punished, and everyone is talking about a bright future. Then whales do not need to post, they should only vote for unknown users.
I am determined by the rules for who to vote for, I am more for someone who writes about religion and spirituality than for some empty stories of walking along the coast and getting $ 30 for it. These people give me the disadvantages as if they were big bloggers, this is a business and a democratic society, let the idea, the project, the creative solution, not the judgment of the lobby group, win. Some people do the right things and I will gladly support it, but I will never support negative campaigns and destructive solutions.
It all turned into gossip, hatred, threats and a poor choice of words. Is the point that we all lose both money and credibility !!! The downvote is certainly not the right solution, changing voting rules, suspending Steem printing, creating a Steem platform for tokens, marketing campaigns to attract companies, etc.
I have never had anything against the personality, I have against the monopoly that lies behind the story of a new democracy, this is not the French Revolution, we should all be constructive and positive.

nothing gets off the downvote, no one earns.

Yes they do, everyone else earns more from shit getting downvoted, how do you not know that? Didn't you run a steem(it) school? lol

There is plenty of religious posts you can vote if that's what you like, the point is to vote on people you don't know. Not just on your friends and vote-trading buddies.

List the people who are really making money without being supported by the same group? Choose names and then strike to the end, there is no trial, no constructive conversation, it is important to bring down the smaller players to get the bigger ones after them.
I'm sure by normal vote criteria I don't deserve a minus, but I get it again. And none of your group has ever voted for me. This Steem has dropped so low today, look at the value and you'll see that something needs to change and it's not a Revenge Steem purchase. When I was giving away thousands of dollars none of you big guys supported me, nobody came to give a whale business lesson.
Then again I was attacked by the same team of people, I brought in a large number of new users, gave money to many, to knowledge and proper posting, comments, Steem etc. Now you're telling me what to do. How many people lost money because of all the experiments, empty promises that were not fulfilled on time, policy changes, etc.? We need to talk specifically, not philosophically, this is not democracy, these are not social network principles, in the end I get directions for who not to vote and for whom to vote, so this is an ultimatum.
I give my son support, who is 16, I motivate him, teach him to do something on his own and then see the downvotes, it's a shame.
There are gossip people who cite missiles for minuses and everything remains a story, there is always a reason why downvote, nothing is enough while others are outlawed.

There are no successful posts and bloggers without vote-trading buddies.

Your support

My

This is what it looks like because I defend myself from the minus, I defend my family because some bad guys ruined my posts. I vote for myself to support the minus, and I do not want to stop writing because that is the goal of this story.

I'm voting for ocd cause they get downvoted because of what we do with ocdb. You have always been voting on slowwalker and other vote-trading buddies in forever. Don't try compare our activity.

You can always write without upvoting yourself or earning a ton of rewards, people write for free everywhere. Get off that selfish mindset every once in a while.

I don't vote for myself except when you drop my post to 0.
You are just one example, all those who talk about exchanging votes have the same team of people who vote for them and for whom they vote, they all exchange votes for the common good, but basically it is just a story of taking power and control.

It turns out that you are only good and that there are bad ones and the votes are given to the same people, it makes no difference except that you support the good. So don't vote for the same people, vote for the new ones. Isn't that the story, isn't that the point. Everyone does the same thing, only the stories are different.