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RE: Another Broken Promise: Trump Taxes The Internet

in #trump6 years ago

That seems an over reach. The states asked out-of-state sellers to collect and remit taxes everyone else is having to pay already. Why should I have to pay more locally than a neighbor pays by ordering from another state?

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Why should I have to pay more locally than a neighbor pays by ordering from another state?

Why should you have to pay for services you didn't ask for? Shall we all vote now on how much I'm entitled to take out of your wallet? Is this what passes for righteousness now? As long as there was a vote, it's legit?

That's the argument government is essentially making.

Do you advocate eliminating all taxes? Possibly use crowd funding for highways? For law enforcement?

How will that work?

Taxation, when it is coerced is no different than theft. Some people get confused because of the costumes some actors wear. It's the action that matters, not the costume. If someone threatens to kidnap you and put you in a cage if you do not pay them extortion fees when you didn't consent to the arrangement in the first place, or just go to someone else who happens to be holding your assets to seize your assets, that is still theft. That is fundamentally the same action that a mugger or burglar uses. Yet we think that the former if said actor of the state wears a costume is legitimate and even necessary, while the latter is criminal. It is not. They are both criminal, but those so costumed and acting under a badge represent organized crime of the highest order.

People have a short memory. Fortunately I remember a long ways back. Often statists ask the question "who will build the roads?". Where I'm from, my ancestors built the road because we farmed hundreds of acres in the area. This is what Manwaring Rd looked like in 1941...

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This is how all roads started, but people wanted to drive faster, so pavement was invented and the same people who created the dirt roads under their own volition then started using paving techniques but it was "sanctioned" by government. The farm equipment that my family was using was sometimes used to level out the potholes.

Absent some authority dictating and organizing people, people will still come together to cooperate and will be doing the same things as before, but will at the end not be left poor because someone has a talent for shuffling papers around.

The same thing goes for crime. The so called victimless crimes where no one has been harmed are nothing more than a government extortion racket used to enrich parasites. These same parasites then when called upon to do something about crime that actually has victims, rarely make the victim whole. Do they compensate victims or order criminals to do so? Rarely. It has become theater. Someone who has lost family to murder is never made whole again, but the state organizes a trial in these cases and sometimes puts offenders in cages so that they can't repeat the offense. But the victim is usually left recked. The state doesn't take it upon themselves to compensate the victims of crime, except in a few cases where they are guilty themselves.

@adamkokesh has proposed crime insurance to make victims whole again, but it is an opt in system. First, one must own themselves completely and take full responsibility. There are no guarantees in life.

Taxation, when it is coerced is no different than theft.

Yet taxpayers seldom ever vote the people who vote for tax increases out of office. Congress has an abysmal record at spending but voters keep the same people in office until they die. Blame the voters on that result.

The state doesn't take it upon themselves to compensate the victims of crime,

And why should they? The state has no money and would only take it away from you in the form of another tax to give to the victim/family. I can't imagine you would like that much.

RE: Another Broken Promise: Trump Taxes The Internet

And none of the above had anything to do with the fake headline that Trump taxed the Internet. The arguments are obfuscation and the headline is untrue and is simple click-bait.

Blame the voters on that result.

They say give me your child and the seed that I plant will never be uprooted. Government has cultivated a large plantation of willing slaves. Go ahead and blame the slaves if you wish, but that will change nothing. Only by changing the control structure will there be redress for grievances.

And why should they?

Of course they shouldn't. But they pretend to be the only answer under a monopoly of power. Personal responsibility is the only answer.

The other stuff is off topic from what I was addressing.

As was the above off topic from my statement about the article title being click bait and mis-stating facts. It was not your doing, but is still click bait.

I'm not sure how this is a mis stating of facts exactly. Obviously Trump didn't tax the internet himself through decree the way King George would have, but as I understand it, he was in favor of the measure.

The question in my mind is why this "mis stating of facts" (not sure what facts you're referring to here) makes a significant difference. Is Trump your hero? If he's your god, then you've become a slave. In that case, happy dependence day.

Not that I don't appreciate to some degree that Hillary got the boot, but we're just exchanging overlords, not getting rid of them.

I for one don't believe in honoring anyone in power. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. None have been shown worthy and all have ἁμαρτία (Greek word for sin). Stop being a follower. Too much obedience has led to terrible atrocities in the world.