I always wonder why there are people who constantly have to exploit systems. How are we ever going to grow with HIVE if there are such 'idiots' who enrich themselves here?
Unfortunately, the topic of growth for HIVE and some top leaders rarely comes up, because how are we supposed to create a healthy ecosystem here in the long term if the community can't manage to pull together. I think HIVE is great, cool, but we are a niche product and much more a small cluster of many good projects and many people who simply exploit this here just to enrich themselves.
How are we going to move HIVE forward together if there are no rules, penalties, and the like here? How is HIVE, including its price, supposed to grow if there is hardly any external advertising, info webinars, speakers, and a proper and easy onboarding system?
I believe, even though I love HIVE and will continue to blog here 100%, that many people here are enriching themselves and those who are striving to build up the community are merely being exploited. ... a pity, truly a pity ...
You cannot always account for the gravity of human stupidity. All these idiots that have participated in this might have gotten miniscule short term benefit but long terms lost all the opportunities that Hive offers.
Thats their punishment. Unfortunately, they also punished all the hundreds of others that didnt participate in this. Hopefully those find their home elsewhere on Hive.
Ultimately, Vibes was just a successful demonstration of a structured approach to the Hive reward systems.
It wasnt special in any way other than via the effort being put into upholding that structure. Its very easily emulated elsewhere.
Not by be though because I am done. I am so done trying to "help" people in this way. 2 years of effort I put in for this to be a success, that benefited so many, and the first opportunity to screw Vibes over was taken by so many of those that benefited the most. Well they wont benefit any more.
There is a penalty and its far more than just being added to a blacklist.
I don't know and never knew VIBES in that way, and perhaps that's a good thing. On the other hand, it makes me question where I, as a HIVER, get to see or hear about things. They have their punishment, they are getting it, and I hope it will be forever and ever.
But for me, it's about something completely different. By the way, I use Gemini to translate into English. How do you ever plan to make HIVE big if a) there are constantly people like this here and if b) so many people are cooking their own soup anyway (i.e., pursuing their own interests)?
If we have our own projects here and there, but we never pull together. The merch from the Value Plan was a great start, but look at how money is sometimes handled here. I'm not the HIVE expert, but I am the blogger and user here, and there should be more of those, right?
Well, you are right – keep going, look forward, and maybe we will see each other at a HIVE Meet Up in Vienna. The next one is on November 20th at 7 PM.
Well, i can tell you from my perspective what I intend to do. Not spend any more time trying to help people, (as harsh as that might sound), my trust levels are at negative values and will stay that way far into the future. I want to rather focus on investment and how to bring in more investors here. Multiple ways to do that.
Onboarding, others can deal with that. I showed them the way to do it, a way that works, onboarding UX i cant fix personally, never could.
Its on others from now on.
Okayyyyyyy mr. you are completly right :) thanks a lot ...
Think about how we can make HIVE big together.
Is there a way to start legal action against those who did this?
Ugh, see. Unfortunately, or fortunately, the damage is probably just a few hundreds bucks they essentially stole from other musicians via preferable votes, and those votes are only 1 out of 3 or 4 variables. Polls being 1 variable, me being another variable, list of 15 potential winners being another.
So it would be hard to determine how much and where they effected the results. You can only track a few transactions and testimonies from people.
Can you take legal action against someone that sent the judge 100 bucks? Maybe. Gotta find what jurisdiction theyre in. Is it worth the time and effort though?
Verbal D knows I could do significant damage to his personal life if I wanted to, but the piece of shit has a bunch of kids. If I ruined his life over this id probably be a scumbag like he is which is why im not going to do it.
For me, it's about the principle. It would be okay to denounce these people... right? :) have a great hivetime - keep going
Denounce sure. Anything more than that, I cant stoop to their level. Theyre essentially idiots that shot themselves in the foot.
It would be kind of like beating up someone thats mentally challenged because they do mentally challenged things.