Waivio - a novelty to me - alive on Hive

in #waivio4 years ago

Imagine my surprise when, five minutes before, I stumbled upon @waivio site. Hey, this looks very familiar. How come? Of course, it's busy.org dressed up. Excellent. And it's working on #hive. Even more excellent. Let's make a post right away.

Imagine one need to migrate

Imagine one need to migrate

Hm, a strange editor, no markdown, copypasting images doesn't work, spellchecker is not working, ...

OK, some would say that the editor is a standard one yet I am so used to writing markdown ...

And what's the story with objects? Are they tags in disguise? Let's try adding one ...

I admit I don't undeerstand the explanation above.

I admit I don't undeerstand the explanation above.

OK, let's try with the hashtag which represents the Running community.

hive-107275

What will happen when this post will be published? I have no idea.


What is really great is that we habve one dApp on #hive more and more options to choose from and to use. Excellent again!

Where do I put the tags? I'll try to add then with the Add object field. Like this ... Oh, they are put at the bottom. It looks they act like categorized tags. Nice.


Aha, tags are to be entered on the preview page, after you click on the Ready to publish button. OK, I'll live the objects and repeat the tags ...

The previe page at the bottom looks like this:


Better and better

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Good! What are these "objects weights"?

If your post earned $3 and you referenced 3 hashtags, your earned $1 expertise in each of these tags, while the weights of these tags themselves also increased by $1 each. This way you can compare hashtags, preview hashtag experts and review user's expertise.

Thanks for the explanation.

Ok!!! Good approach!

another site to bookmark 😄

Thanks for the feedback, I'll try to address some of the issues you mentioned:

  1. WYSIWYG editor instead of markup - indeed, for people who are comfortable using GitHub and similar services, markup editor is simple and easy to use, but we received a lot of negative feedback from ordinary users. This is why we invested a lot of resources in building it. Obviously, the work is not yet complete.

  2. Copy/paste of images in the editor - sure, we'll add this option.

  3. Objects - these are web 3.0 (decentralized) data structures that you can create on Hive blockchain. For example, you can create a business listing, a product, a document (page), a catalog (list) and each of them will get a unique URL. For example, here is a link to a restaurant: https://www.waivio.com/object/ygv-carderos-restaurant-restaurant/menu#ygv-carderos-restaurant-restaurant-menu
    Objects are being assembled from separate updates, that could be posted by different users: https://www.waivio.com/object/ygv-carderos-restaurant-restaurant/updates
    Community can vote Accept/Reject on these updates.

Now, you can reference these objects in your Hive posts and these posts will appear in the Review section of that object. For example: https://www.waivio.com/object/ygv-carderos-restaurant-restaurant

  1. Object weights in advance settings - users gain expertise in objects and hashtags that they reference in their posts proportional to author and curation rewards collected. Users can even specify how these earnings should be accounted for.

As the result, each object (ex., hashtag) has a list of Experts (users who either improved the object or referenced it in their posts): https://www.waivio.com/object/hive/expertise

Also it is easy to check domain expertise of users: https://www.waivio.com/@ervin-lemark/expertise

  1. Hive communities - we will add support for communities at a later date.

Again, thank you for the detailed and friendly feedback.

Thank you very much for taking the time to answer and for the long answer itself.

First of all, don't take my ramblings as a critique. It isn't. I love to see that you've invested a lot of thought, time and resources in your product. Respect!

Now the the answers.

  1. Markdown - I understand and support the reasoning. Yet, could you add a setting, hidden somewhere deep, to enable markdown? Or plain text editor (html, md, ...)? TNX :)

  2. Copy paste - great!

  3. Objects - an interesting concept. I will have to sleep on it :)
    Then I'll try to add an object or two. Maybe a calendar if this is possible?

Thanks again. Keep up the good work. From what I've gleaned so far your team is doing a great job in a professional way.

  1. Having an option for the markdown editor in settings is a good idea. We struggled with the concept of an instant switch because we use a different intermediate format for saving drafts and reliable conversions back and forth might be challenging.

  2. We don't have a calendar object type just yet. At this moment we support general listings (business, product, restaurant, dish, place), lists (catalogs, directories, menus) and pages (documents, long descriptions, agreements, wiki-pages).

Besides calendars, we also consider trails (hiking, biking, roads), areas (maps, regions, layers).

In addition to different types of objects we also consider introducing custom types of posts on Hive, ex:: hiking/biking/offroad report, fishing reports, travel updates and a lot more.

If you would like to learn more, you might check the Waivio Whitepaper: https://www.waivio.com/@waivio/hello-steem

We want to take Hive way beyond blogging. Our end goal is to launch direct Attention Trading on Hive. Check the Rewards section on Waivio.

Thanks again for great response. I see you have all bases covered. I apologize for being so ignorant about Waivio.

  1. Agree. It can be challenging. Mixing / converting formats is not a good idea and can lead to all sorts of trouble.
  2. Objects - GeoJSON, ics, JSCalendar - and alike interest me a lot! I envision a calendar of events declared with content, time and place. For starters with recreational events like running, hiking, cycling, ... Of course the format and platform should be activity agnostic so you can cover practically anything.

Great. One more project to get familiar with :) I see possible (probable) cooperation with other projects - @actifit, @runningproject, @exhaust, for example.