Good morning.
What about non-crypto savvy potential users?
Let's suppose that I don't know a thing about Steem, I've only heard about it. I heard great things and I want to join. I also don't have an exchange account and have never bought any crypto...
How can the system enable me to join it easily and without any additional / off site steps?
Hm, another question? Is the fee really necessary? OK, it is a barrier of sorts but ...
Could it be easier to join without the fee and have initial debt? You cover this debt by your activity on the platform. When you are in plus (or have certain amount of plus) only then you are allowed to withdraw ... Eh, mixing different things :)
Just rambling away. I better start working. I have enough on my agenda for today and I shouldn't be hanging here :)
more importantly.... if a fee is introduced, does that mean that existing accunts are grandfathered in? meaning the fee is not imposed on those who were here pre HF20 helping to grow the community? i'd be against any excessive sidesteps to join, it is difficult enough for new users to learn to navigate and learn the system well enough to use it properly.... i've only been here a month and i'm still stumbling around....
@misterd21 the fee is already in place, only it's paid by Steemit. They support it as part of their user acquisition cost.
then either continue to pay as usual, or close the group... It sounds to me that the success of steemit is becomming a little overwhelming for the devs. or it was poorly thought out. I mean as with anything in where there is money involved(gold, dollars, crypto) someone is going to find exploits... they should have anticipated fake user accounts and prepared for such an event... Have you ever thought that a fake account is going to be willing to pay because it is still going to be a net win for them over the long run. all a fee is going to do is get the people who aren't here for the money abandon steemit...and to me, that is the real beauty of steemit...the community...
Some very good points raised thanks for the input!
I think this is a good thought. I, for example, knew almost nothing about crypto when I joined, and I almost certainly would not have joined had it been required for me to buy something on a crypto exchange (even though I really enjoy that now). Is the goal to have as many users as possible on here, or only have ones that have a certain amount of knowledge going in? It seems to me that more users would equal a higher potential value for Steem in the long term, but maybe that isn't the case?
My point exactly!
This thing is called adoption. All crypto media is crying about it, how hard it is for a regular person to adopt bitcoin or steem or ...
Don't make it even harder to join the party :)
If you don't know anything about crypto, then you won't want STEEM, because STEEM is crypto. It's a logical fallacy here. I think it's a good measure to separate the freeloaders from people who really have a say. There's no such thing as a free lunch and there will never be.
Cool :) But what about the Your voice is worth something part?
Does it really have to be crypto in the first place? Or is crypto just a consequence of participation?
Remember, Steemit Inc. want/wish millions of users.
This would give an opportunity to hoard account names for free. We can't allow that, otherwise all the best names will be taken very quickly.
Hm... Market for names as it is for domains?
OK, I withdraw my question why not free :)
Then we need some sort of, for example Blocktrades, integration to make it easy to pay the fee up front while registering.
Yeah, this is what I've been saying for a long time. The Steem ecosystem needs an easy way to buy new accounts, with different cryptocurrencies and also fiat currencies.
Fiat too, exactly. You don't need many of them - USD, EUR, BTC, ETH, ... Which online service supports these and have an API which can be integrated into the frontend?
Hey, steemconnect could have this feature of funding your (future) steem wallet ...
Basically it should be just an ordinary webshop. New users just "buy a product", in this case, a Steem account. They tell what name they want and pay it easily with a credit card or other cryptocurrencies.
A bonus feature: buyers of new accounts could pay more than just the account creation fee. If they paid more, that would be transformed to Steem Power to their new account and they would have immediately more power on the platform.
This would to create organic and constant demand for steem and help the price to go higher, so everybody in the ecosystem would benefit.
It's also psychologically beneficial to make new users to pay for their accounts. When they pay for it, they consider it as a valuable investment, not just something they got for free to play with.
I agree with you :)
Changely widget can act as a payment bridge.
New user can buy more that the creation fee value of Steem.
All it takes now is adding the widget to the registration form and making a campaign for the new users to let them realize why is beneficial for them to join and why is beneficial to invest more than just a fee.
Easy :)
Hey #2 :)
Changelly can do it right away:
You just have to figure out the incoming amount according to the currency chosen and inject the future steem wallet name ...
There sure is an API call to calculate the value before the transaction. And the name part is just to take the value from the name field and inject it into the widget code...
Easy :)