Hive is the best blockchain to do P2P even without a Smart Contract or Layer 2 solution. Wow 🤩 that’s a bold statement, but it’s actually possible and I already made it happen. I made this move because DLease, a layer 2 solution, has ceased its operation. Although there is another layer 2 solution in the form of Hive-Engine’s HP Leasing platform, it’s unable to get traction from HP delegators for reasons that I’m not sure about.
Maybe one of the reasons is that the medium of exchange or transaction is using $Hive-Swap which is a Hive-pegged token that only exists in Hive-Engine side-chain. To exchange $Hive for $Hive-swap token, the user will have to deposit their $Hive to their Hive-Eingine wallet which will incur a transaction fee. The same goes when withdrawing their $Hive-Swap back to $Hive. It’s not the best experience if you’re not a Hive-Eingine enthusiast. So aside from the fee, the trouble in converting tokens is a hurdle to the HP Delegators.
To be honest, Hive-Engine is a sidechain solution that may also stop operating (knock on the wood) at its own will without everyone’s consent. There’s this trust issue with the system that’s not easy to get rid of. So far the Hive-Engine HP Leasing is the only alternative that I know of that acts as an escrow between the HP Leasor and the Leasee.
However, I find it interesting that it isn't attracting the attention of HP Delegators despite the good profitability with the current leases in the market right now. I'm seeing a good APR of around 9% and even a lease that offers a profit of 20% APR but nobody seems to care about it.
Let me give P2P a shot!
That's right, I'm offering a 10% APR for your HP Delegation to my account. The payment will be done daily through Keychain's Recurrent Transfer method.
If you are interested in making a deal with me, you may simply comment below and then we will agree with the comment as well.
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What token will you payout for the HP delegation? And how do you generate the yield? That is not clear yet.
Despite that, 10% APR sounds good, considering to delegate some over
Unfortunately, you can only pay in Hive or HBD.
But, I can promise you that no party has any disadvantage.
If I remove my delegation to @curamax, @curamax can cancel his recurring payments.
If Curamax cancels its payments, I can cancel my delegation.
There is no risk at any time.
Ok so you get the APR in Hive. Fine 👍🏻
But how does @curamax generate the yield? I don’t get how delegating HP will make it possible to pay out such a Hive amount.
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Es rechnet sich tatsächlich, ein paar HP zu mieten.
Aber dieses war nie mein Anliegen und sicherlich auch nicht das von Curamax.
Ich und Curamax leasen HP um Inhalte zu unterstützen und ernten einen kleinen Teil.
Das ist aus meiner Sicht kein all zu schlechter Zustand.
Woah, that's a lot man! That will serve as my curation reward goal :)
This is the beauty of Hive.
There's no 3rd party but either leasor & leasee are protected by the system. So cool!
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My curation APR is only around 7%-8%, however, I need the RC that comes along with the HP delegated to me to generate ACT (Account Creation Token); currently generated a total of 81 ACTs. It may not be valuable now but in the future, it could be, I'm betting on it 😅
The sign-up page in Hive mentions creating an account for free (requires verification) because the platform isn't that big yet however, the other options are already asking $1, $2, and $3 for creating an account.
https://signup.hive.io/
It would be cool to be able to sell ACT tokens in the future. For now, my goal is to generate as many ACTs to save them for potential markets in the future.
If you wanna sell them in future - let me know :) I have a project in the making (will take a lot more time tbh) that will need a bunch (after we have used 600 of our own tokens)
I like the sound of that 🤩 I do feel that there is a future market for it. For now, I'll just keep stacking them.
I am interested, but only if at least for 4 weeks! I could start anytime.
Awesome! Thanks for the trust.
I wish to lease a min of 1000 HP to a max of 10,000 HP, you may decide on the final HP you are willing to delegate.
I will pay 0.28 Hive for every 1000 HP through Keychain's Recurrent Transfer.
I agree to lease your HP for a minimum of 4 weeks.
Once you delegate your HP our initiate the Recurrent transfer within 24 hours. The occurrence of transfer will happen every 24 hours as well.
Great, I just delegated 10K to you!
Coool! The Recurrent Transfer was initiated. The occurrence is at least 4 weeks. Thanks man!
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@stayoutoftherz If you still had HP left over I'd be willing to lease from you at 8% if you were interested. I'd be looking for a max of 50,000 HP for 11 hive a day for 12 weeks. Or 25,000 for 5.5 hive a day for 12 weeks.
Thanks, but 8% is too little. 10% and we have a deal (min. 4 weeks).
Would you consider 9% , i.e. 50,000 for 12.35 hive per day
For how long?
Am interested @curamax. Let me know. Thanks
Great, let's make a deal.
I wish to lease a minimum of 1000 HP to a maximum of 5000 HP, you may decide.
A 1000 HP earns you 0.28 Hive daily (it's rounded off for simplicity).
As soon as you delegate the HP, I will initiate the Keychain's Recurring Transfer. The first payment is immediate and then it will occur every 24 hours.
All done @curamax. Reach out as needed. Thanks
Awesome! That's good news. I've initiated the Recurrent Transfer.
Delegated 50 HP
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Awesome! I've initiated the Recurrent Transfer for at least 4 weeks. I will renew subsequently as we approach the 4th week. Cheers!
Good idea you have. I had not thought of the P2P as far as repayment through recurring transfer. I tried a P2P a few months ago, but paid upfront the amount. It worked well for me.
I'll see how much HP I have once current delegators to me in a few days from DLease have been taken back.
Take care and good luck with your curation efforts.
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Sounds great. I'm looking forward to making a deal with you :) Chhheers!
Hello. At present, I have 2,500 free to delegate if you're interested.
Hi @justclickindiva , yes I'm interested. I have initiated the Recurrent Transfer, you may delegate. Thank you.
I have set 30 days but I'll keep on adjusting the duration for as long you keep the delegation. You may freely undelegated at any time.
Cheers!
DONE! I have delegated an additional 500 HP for your curation efforts. Take care, and spread the love on Hive members.
Hope you have a good rest of your week. Take care.
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That's so coool! Thanks a lot for the support 🙏
You're welcome. Take care and happy curating.
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I use Hive-Engine at the moment for Leases :D
It would good, but ye it needs more eyes after dlease parture.
Doing it like this is also a good idea no doubt :D
Have you got good feedback on your leases?
I tried it but seems that I'm not getting any feedback so I tried this peer-to-peer method. So far so good.
Ohh really? I have 4 active leases from HE at 10.06% APR :D
In that case, I'll give it another try. Maybe I got too impatient in my previous attempts, lol
Depends on the APR and the amount of HP I guess, I have just been doing small amounts of HP
That could be a reason why, my previous attempts... HP leases that I set were too high. I'll try smaller ones this time.
One annoying thing is that its swap.hive and not just hive x)
Nice article boss, Hive has always stood out right from day one and it has proven that it is the best blockchain ever giving more earnings and winning to her users.
Sorry for asking, but I was wondering why you would lease hp for a price slightly higher than what you could make of it?
Totally fine if you don't want to elaborate on this. :)
Hi @stekene , you may see my reply here:
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@curamax/re-borsengelaber-s9c3ho
Oh okay, that's an interesting way of thinking!
Thanks for the explanation!
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Of course i will surely delegate but that would be at the ending of the month when i have powered up quite a number of hive as am gonna use my money to incur it to hive.
How are you going to pay this boss, is it the same hive or a token?
Yes in Hive token through Keychain's Recurring Transfer.
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