Quick question @dickturpin ... this post is something I consider high value content, a well-written fiction that sparks interesting discussion about Hive.
It got over 400 upvotes, plus a hundred comments, most of them praise, but I appear to have received a substantial downvote with no explanation given by an account called 'newsflash'... you seem to have a deep understanding of multiple sides of this issue, as well as connections to some of the bigger players that may be relevant...
I just wondered if you had any insights or input to share? Anything it'd be good for me to know going forward? All good if not, just figured I'd ask, thanks in advance! 🙏
OK. I can find out who/what they are. I'm purely guessing, but I suspect this might be a "How dare you say anything against Hive!" situation? So much for "Freedom of speech." others would argue this sort of thing is exactly what Hive is all about, showing your displeasure at a piece of work. I'd find it heartbreaking if someone did that to me for no good reason. 😢
Thanks for the prompt response, good sir. And no need to trouble yourself about any of it, I just thought I'd ask in case you knew off the top of your head.
I was under the impression writing an original, high-quality piece of fiction (that singled-out no one in particular) is the kind of authorship Hive wants to encourage, and if someone wants to downvote me for ~55 Hive, it'd certainly be nice to know why.
But it's no big deal, @comet.ranker swung by and tipped me 50 Hive which offsets it, and neither act was backed up by a comment on my post explaining things, so I can embrace the ebb and flow.
Still somewhat strange, imho, though. Anyway, thanks again for your time and consideration, I appreciate you and wish you a fantastic day. 🙏
So, having looked at the account, they are a pretty substantial whale and appears to be yet another one of those News regurgitation endeavours. A couple of people have told me that the account does do upvotes now and again, but I've not seen any evidence of that. I also got the stock answer that I seem to get a lot when asking why someone did something: "They're OK..............." I suspect everyone is OK until they stop you earning?
As I said earlier, I guess this is a personal thing because as far as I know, there's no plagiarism here, no copy/paste and no breaking of any of the other unwritten rules that it's possible to break, which is a shame because I don't see anything wrong with what you've written, and although you've penned it in a fictional style, I would have to say that I have seen the scenarios you describe on numerous occasions.
You could try talking to them and asking why they downvoted you, appeal to their better judgment, perhaps? I don't have a problem with people being downvoted for doing something wrong. If there were not a financial element attached to all this, I probably wouldn't have an issue with downvoting because the work was not liked, but when there's a financial impact, we're in a whole different ball game IMO.
I can think of nothing worse than defending a lie. Usually, in these situations, you'd be accused of being a Troll, Toxic, Tearing it down, anything to shut you up. It's a dangerous precedent to use the downvote weapon to stop people from saying what they like on a supposedly free platform. We should all be free to question everything and everyone without fear of reprisals or "Losing your mates."
I always have and always will live by this rule.
Enjoy
Wow, I wasn't expecting you to go to such lengths, but I'm super grateful, thank you!
I could question it further, but looks, sounds, and feels like I "got downvoted by the whim of a whale", which is a thing that can happen, and although I don't feel my piece comes anywhere near justifying such a thing, I'm at peace wit it and feel I've 'gotten answers to my question' at this point.
As for their motivation, perhaps they want to discourage quality content like mine? Or get me to move back to centralized platforms? Maybe they simply misclicked? I could seek to discover their motivation but my gut tells me just to let it go.
Fortunately some of the community stepped in to restore the rewards on this post in their own way ( @comet.ranker tipped 50 Hive and @dudeontheweb tipped 0.25 HBD), which I'm hugely thankful for and shows the power of the community to offset a whale when they band together. Only thing really missing is the nice 'rewards number' in the corner of my post so people would click on it more.
Anyway, I love the lines you've quoted and resonate with them. I'm all for discussion especially if it's 'mature', civil, and constructive, and I encourage the questioning of anything as well. Without questions there are no answers. :)
To conclude, thank you again so much for putting in the time and effort to find more about this, and for the validation that my piece didn't deserve it. You brought a smile to my day, and I appreciate it.
P.S. @mattclarke has been here a while and seen @alexanova scared off the platform, perhaps he knows more about this? Or @dandays or @nonameslefttouse may be able to shed insight? Either way, I'll just move on and let it be what it is, lol.) 🙏
I just saw this and barely skimmed backward enough to see what you guys are talking about. We have several hours left fostering these puppies but didn't want you to think I missed the memo.
All good bro, it was just a small curiosity I thought you might know more about. :) And since those adorable puppies are clearly a fantastic way to spend several hours, I highly encourage your fostering. #KeepRyzing :) 🙏
I wrote this in my notepad by the way since it's so got dang lengthy
Funny, I wrote 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦'𝘴 𝘢 𝘣𝘪𝘨 𝘥𝘪𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘵𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘨𝘪𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘮 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘴 𝘢 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘪𝘹 and then continued reading.
Scratch that. Now I have to tell a Rappers Delight story. I doubt this is what you asked for but it's what you get when you get me.Yard sale, I'm a regular back in the day—record shopping. I used to turn records, ok, ready? My buddy is behind me, the crate says "Vinyl - $1." I thumb and thumb and thumb (similar to now) and find Rappers Delight, the "original." I got excited, "Josh, check it out!" "Eh," the chick running the thing said "oh that one's $5." Funny. Where was I?
I keep forgetting to ask your editing process, there's gotta be more than one of you doing it. Lengthy ass content like that and only one typo is'fa king impressive.
This is lengthy already and I've yet to address your question but you're like.. 'lengthy, pshh!'
Is saying Einstein is genius a cliche or profundity or neither? Hashtag rhetorical. All I mean is back in the racing days when if you got caught cheating, you sacrificed points, they'd like you to believe cheaters never win. I hear mothers tell their kids that shit, look'em right in the eye and say it when I know for a fact the best cheater always wins. Cliche/profundity, remember, it's the first question in this paragraph.
Dear RyzeOnline.
Just as I didn't have to say everything I just said, I also don't have to explain to each producer why I Upvote their content. Dude I've never had a downvote near as substantial as the one you received here so it's like me telling you what it's like having children. I can not tell you what that's like. Understand my perceptive is altered from yours but I've never required explanation when whales Upvote me. I'm silently appreciative. However, we expect explanations when things don't go our way and, at the end of the day, expectations are not mandatory.
I didn't go through all 145 comments cuz I think 45 minutes on one piece is record breaking so someone might've said it already. Considering the message here, as twisted as what I'm about to say may sound, dude the only better example I could think of to put a period at the end of your story is a little bit more and zero that fucker out completely.
"Yellow and blue makes green." Bullshit, show me. "Downvotes suck!" Damn... you ain't bullshittin!
They probably just need a hug from their mommy.
So it's one account that downvoted you. They just happen to be a whale. I note that they are upvoting a lot more than they downvote. Do you demand that someone justifies a big upvote for you? That will be taking a share of the pool that others cannot have and some will wonder why. We have no specific obligations as users of Hive and don't have to justify what we do. That's part of the freedom. This person may just have disagreed with you, but as far as I know it's a long-time whale who is not afraid to stir things up. They have used other accounts before.
You should be used to Hive being the wild west by now. You can strike gold or you can have your cattle stolen by rustlers. Just be happy if it's more of the former. I see people complain about a downvote (at length) when they still made decent money. But it can happen that some large account takes against you. I do downvote what I consider abuse, but I try to avoid feuds and vendettas.
Yes, I gathered most of that from @dickturpin already, and now it's 'extra-confirmed' by yourself. So, thank you. :)
I demanded nothing and obligated no one. I expressed simple curiosity to someone who seemed friendly and knowledgeable. In fact, I'm surprised you even revisited this post, and found this particular thread in order to interject. Interesting. :)
Regardless, I agree with you on all points, and have never suggested otherwise. In fact, I've written my agreement on this issue many times, specifically my post on abuse, my post on censorship, and my post on trolls, thousands of extremely articulate, poignant, well-crafted words on the topic, if you're interested. ;)
I've been talking to 'dick' about it. He is put off by some of the negative stuff even if that's a small part of Hive. We have all sorts of people are some enjoy attacking others with impunity. Those affected often write a sob story post striking back that may only make things worse. I see people who do deal with real abuse getting attacked in such posts as bullies. They are human and may react negatively to that.
Hive is a microcosm that may not have a representative selection of humanity. It will attract people with strong/extreme opinions who enjoy some conflict. I would hope it can grow to reduce their impact, but we cannot afford to scare off good people with infighting.
I have seen some of your previous posts, but be aware that not everyone has time to read thousands of words on such topics. Some people get pretty verbose in the comments and so those can be even longer. I tend to concentrate on posts around my own interests and I support those.
I agree with all this, and have even written (quite expertly) on long vs. short content, multiple times.
And I expect everyone to concentrate on posts around their own interests. It'd be quite silly otherwise, lol. Imagine people concentrating on posts utterly NOT their own interests.
Being aware of that, your multiple comments on this post, as well as discussing with 'dick' and then revisiting to address me here... seemed a fairly clear sign that the issues discussed here (and which I took the time to link above) align with your interests-- but if they're too long, detailed, or nuanced for you, or you simply prefer more bite-sized content, I totally understand. To each their own. Wishing you a great day. 🙏
I get dragged into some things against my better judgement :)
Someone giving you money and someone taking money from you are (not) exactly the same.
Both are about distribution of rewards.
the same exact principles apply IRL
every dollar you spend increases liquidity, causing my saved dollars to lose value
I don't spend any dollars :) Much bigger pool of money involved anyway.