Heating an Industry

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Another day, another Hive drive on the markets - A good sign for things to come as we approach the end of the year in my book. I was at work, so didn't have much of a chance to focus on anything or take advantage, but it reached $1.31, which is well below the start of my ladder. Am I being too optimistic?

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It is hard to say, but in my limited experience, I like these ups and downs to collect more tokens, but eventually, many will end up being caught out as the expectation will be "this is just another pump" and then, it goes parabolic. Because so many people are speculating their sells on the next pump, more tokens are sold at that point and then, once it keeps moving up, the scarcity increases as the sellers unload, but as it keeps increasing, end up chasing into a thin market. This can drive the price up very high in a very short time. I don't know what people are expecting the price to climb to, but I suspect that there will be a lot who sell too early and then people who hold too long (probably me) and miss the top.

What would be a fair price?

"Fair" really doesn't come into it, since most of the price of the market isn't based on anything at all - otherwise most of the tokens would have no valuation, as there is nothing to evaluate other than "yes, this is a token".

HIVE has many sides to it in my opinion, including the ability to create Resource Credits which are like non-tradeable tokens but can be used to buy things like account vouchers. There is of course the curation return, or the ability to pair it with DEC and stake for SPS for Splinterlands. And of course, the vote value itself, which does generate value for the network, as it is possible to empower and reward content creators from all over the world - a part of HIVE I really enjoy.

I know that many only look at things from a financial perspective and "supporting others" doesn't bring in value directly, but I am still idealistic enough to believe that we can indeed improve the state of this world by taking control of our value and using it to support what we would like to see more of. This is in its infancy in the global economy, but I believe it is going to be quite a massive change. Just imagine if those people who support the Effective Altruism movement start getting into crypto - billions in charity that could be even more effectively invested and directed into the wellbeing of those in need. It seems crazy that they keep paying exorbitant fees to the litany of middlemen brokers between. Charity starts in the home and more and more, people are building their homes in digital spaces.

I was asked today what my "exit strategy" is for crypto and he was surprised when I said that I don't have one and I am planning on staying invested indefinitely. He said that five or so years ago he bought 5 thousand in some token and then sold at a loss. He believes he got scammed into buying XRP. He asked what had happened with. Well, it has gone about 150x since then mate....

He also asked why I am so bullish on the future.

It is pretty simple really. As I see it, crypto is the pivot point of the entire financial industry and as such, it is going to touch every layer of the economy and affect every single life on this planet. At this point, it is all opt-in, but it is going to increasingly become so ubiquitous, that everyone is going to be in from birth.

It is already happening.

While the survey was taken by crypto.com so is likely quite biased, some of the quotes are quite interesting:

The research from Crypto.com... found around 42 per cent of Australians were considering coin vouchers and 35 per cent crypto books for Christmas gifts.

Meanwhile 30 per cent said they would look at buying non-fungible tokens (NFTs) such as art, NBA top shot, or Axie Infinity gaming tokens.

Some Aussies are even planning to fund the festive season with crypto, with nearly 8 per cent admitting they will use tech-forward options like cryptocurrency or a crypto-linked card to pay for Christmas gifts this year.

As said, take with a grain of salt, but the trend is clearly moving toward the normalization of crypto in everyday usage. These kinds of numbers are going to grab the attention of retailers who will look to improve their profit and as such, will normalize it further. Combined with the economic woes of the traditional economy, there is a perfect storm for crypto uptake rapidly forming. The more people start to get used to the idea of using crypto, the more who will look to finding ways to get their hands on some.

I see that inevitably, a lot of those people are going to end up poking their newfound crypto interest into Hive, as they look past Bitcoin and become more adventurous. This will be further driven by the growing media focus on side-hustle and passive earnings to supplement inadequate salaries and combat inflation. Not everyone is willing to strip off for OnlyFans.

At this point, price doesn't matter too much, but it is going to start becoming more relevant once there is a substantial amount of participants demanding various goods and services. This means that what will drive price will increasingly become, the usage of the token, not just the speculation on the future usage of it. At some point, promiseware has to off more than a promise and I think in the next decade we are going to see a massive influx of market-ready products with crypto economies integrated natively and through interoperable solutions.

Not only are the values going to rocket upward, but the participation of businesses and users are going to very quickly follow suit, birthing an industry that changes the world as we know it, in record time.

Many are going to be caught out and what they will have burned, is their opportunity.

Taraz
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Hi @tarazkp
I agree.
Mass Adoption, the elusive Holy Grail of crypto isn't the single event people longed for, it's a series of small wins, small conversions, it starts with small things, then more small things, and the eventual several waves of hundreds of small things crashing on the financial beach will suddenly make it visually apparent that mass adoption has arrived.

As for selling Hive, I am actually wondering if Hive has finally arrived at the point where higher highs and higher lows are a constant, and steady growth upwards will become the norm.

I wonder, will the bear market come again, or will there be calm periods of consolidation. It's clear that after seasons of highs and lows Hive has reached a certain point of prosperity and recognition, that ten cent Hive may never come again. Yield Farming and Staking may indeed be the new selling, and buying stable coins with rewards from farms may be the new selling, as it becomes the best profit taking strategy, will leaving your capitol intact to continue earning rewards day in and day out.

Change is the only constant, so I think all strategies for profit should change too.

What do you think?

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Small changes, change the world.

As for selling Hive, I am actually wondering if Hive has finally arrived at the point where higher highs and higher lows are a constant, and steady growth upwards will become the norm.

I am hoping so. Wouldn't it be great if the new base was around 1?

There will be bears, but I do think the volatility will start to lessen (though still be volatile in comparison to traditional markets for now). Yield farming will be part of that, as rather than sell, staking for consistent small gains will be attractive.

and buying stable coins with rewards from farms may be the new selling, as it becomes the best profit taking strategy,

This is part of my plan and then, using the rewards to buy the lows. What ever the "lows" may be.

While all of our educated guesses are just that, we will be questioned about exit strategy until the early majority adoption hits. It may never hit as the ideals of individual power and wealth go completely against the system in place which is to funnel profit into corporate entities and governments. That being said, we are a world of individuals who can collectively make that happen, and it probably hasn't yet because those corporate and governmental groups are delaying in order to buy their stake.

I don't have an exit strategy either. How long until I cash out? I won't until we can spend it directly on goods and are taking payment in it for our dealings.

Funny how I was late to the game in 2017 and still an early adopter!

While all of our educated guesses are just that, we will be questioned about exit strategy until the early majority adoption hits.

For sure. I always try to remember the "I believe that" in this as I am no expert, nor is anyone. It is all just guessing.

Exiting for me is more like moving value from one project to another project - it is trading for goods and services. Most see it as getting out of crypto and back into the "real economy" without realizing this is the real economy too.

Funny how I was late to the game in 2017 and still an early adopter!

I used to think I was so late in, until I got to know how few have made the move still.

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Forgot to mention!
With trading (sell high buy back in lower) we will always be working the volatility to our benefit. What that means is we will most likely miss the real highs and lows as we take profit (and miss the parabolic stuff in our trading exploits) and buy more on a correction (missing the bottom in exchange for not buying the false bottom)

It is a slow game and I like to focus on getting better, hedging based on a couple probable outcomes, and picking the absolute top and bottom of cycles as sport. Challenging and fun!

Its funny that just a few days ago you wrote the post asking what one would do if crypto went 5x or 10 x and now all of a sudden there’s a big pump hehe. Do you have a crystal ball there ?
I don’t really have an exit strategy either, especially not at this point. As for Hive I don’t have a lot of Hive Power right now and I wouldn’t want to give up any of the small influence I have on the platform. If it goes up to 10 or 20 I might think of trading some of it for other crypto just to diversify and perhaps later trade it back into Hive.

I’m not using any money I need in the near future for Crypto, which allows me to be more patient.

Do you have a crystal ball there ?

Crydar ;D

3hrs before

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But really, I am just guessing :)

It is good to build and, it is good to take some gains and buy back in the bear. The hard thing is, choosing a buyback point. If one believes there is another bull to follow, that is another way to make gains.

1 token bought at 1 dollar, sold at ten is a 10x gain. 5 bought back at 2 and sold at 10 again, is another 5x. 50x gains in a couple years isn't too bad :)

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Your absolutely right, just trading one coin with the right timing can make you huge profits. But also like you said you can end up left on the sidelines.

Today the whole market crashing except hive .Why hive is shining like a diamond ? and the answer we know. Community is already conducting Hivefest on metaverse whereas other blockchain still trying to reach that level. Hive has top rated defi and game but other old blockchain still chasing the way to develop such ecosystem. No wonder if hive going parabolic in coming days.

I am not sure it is shining like a diamond for that reason - but eventually it will :)

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Still learning, no exit strategy on Hive, perhaps some others market places collected will get moved around however most have some form of good project. Will back them as long as I can hang in there.

The future is in passive income - and there are many ways that can be approached. Most who don't understand this, still focus on "selling" to make gains. What will be interesting is that the more that stake for yield, the greater the scarcity and the more that yield will earn.

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Trading up and down simply is not my game, dedicate hours reading and researching good projects, invest and let it be. A project can run from 3 to 5 years, patience in growth which may come or simply bomb dive depending project.

Everything is new, to be tried and tested it all takes time.

Not everyone is willing to strip off for OnlyFans.

Even if I was willing, there’s probably not much of a demand for old chubby guys.

The smaller the niche (read kink), the more people are willing to pay ;D

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Some people will be there calling crypto currency scam while others are there making their money. The fear of losing money, that's what's killing some people and is making some people to be stagnant at a point. Now is also good to invest on this altcoin that's selling Now.

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Fear always holds us back from the things we want - we want to have "success" but we are scared to do what it takes to get it.

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That's the truth

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Yesterday, you said that you had plenty of liquid Hive around :)

Did you realize some gains today?

What's exist strategy? I think we won't need any exit strategy as cryptos will have a part in our daily life in the future like fiats, I dream it at least.

Umm. I do have plenty. One small sale went through that I had forgotten about and I just bought it back for a 15% gain. I really am looking for a fair bit higher price than this :)

And yeah - when he asked "how to benefit then" I mentioned the ways to gain without selling. There will be more coming.

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As I see it, crypto is the pivot point of the entire financial industry and as such, it is going to touch every layer of the economy and affect every single life on this planet. At this point, it is all opt-in, but it is going to increasingly become so ubiquitous, that everyone is going to be in from birth.

Yes, it is, definitely. Now it is important to convey the value of cryptocurrency to our relatives and friends in order to try to give them a chance for a bright future!

Thank you for a great post!

It is funny how many people I tell think I am trying to scam them, yet in all the years I have known them, I have never tried to scam them before. Do they think I am playing the really, really long con? :D

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So let's call it a game for a long time)))

Nothing, I understand them in part, it's difficult to move away from the formulaic thinking, the cliches that we have been fed since childhood. Everything is ahead for us and for them!

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I think your thoughts are correct. I want to add on my own that the threshold for entering bitcoin is very high, and many more people will be able to enter the HIVE token. It is now important to create incentives for involvement in the project.

I think we have a ways to go with Hive yet too. So much potential there. I've said this before, there really is no exit strategy for Hive. For other stuff... my hope is that one day exiting out of crypto will not be necessary.

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The best reason I can think of for people to join and become a part of Hive Block Chain it the inclusiveness of most people on Hive. Compared to a lot of other social sites, there is little exclusionary effort, and the divisive efforts are toning down also.

Hive provides so much more than a Token with potential value, it has a community, a real community, and that is the real value in Hive. We are a natural test bed for value, usage, development, and social interactions. Those are just a few of the pluses to Hive.

 He said that five or so years ago he bought 5 thousand in some token and then sold at a loss. He believes he got scammed into buying XRP. He asked what had happened with. Well, it has gone about 150x since then mate..

This similar thing happened to me two years ago when I invested in bitcoin though I didn't think of being scammed but I lacked patience to allow my coins add value before selling. I was afraid of the uncertainty but now I know better, "staking" all the way for a long time thereby building a sustainable financial income flow.
I must say that I got much value reading through your content today.
Thanks for sharing!

I also don’t have an exit strategy, I see crypto lasting forever. I asked myself when portfolio gets to 10,000%, what do I do? Sell or still HODL?

Recognizing opportunity early on and having the faith to embrace it is necessary to benefit from these precious gifts. Thanks for sharing.

Your perspective is very interesting. I am also extremely bullish about the future of cryptocurrencies. Excellent Post. Greetings.

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Some people also ask me what is my exit strategy for crypto. I used to think that I was an idiot for not having one but the last time I was asked that I answered: "I don't have one. Crypto is my exit strategy to FIAT".

And it didn't even feel like bullshit.

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I have no exit strategy, I am not sure I will ever need one. I like it here and with a few passive earnings (which I am working on finding) I will be happy.

what is pushing the market?