While browsing through channels I saw that a github link was shared. Shows one of the newest changes made to the Steem blockchain. Which includes blocking more accounts. This modification was made last month, in late February. A continuation of their Steem protection hardfork, they have added some new changes.
Their plan to block “malicious voters” on Steem includes people like @acidyo @steemcleaners @spaminator and @infovore. Something to note is this only affects the “vote_operation” but regardless it is a change blocking accounts from making transactions (voting) on the chain.
Four years after the fork from Steem to Hive, we continue to see true censorship on the legacy blockchain. This is not the first time Steem has blocked accounts.. Such people as @steevc and @themarkymark blocked at the API level making their posts completely disappear from the front ends.
I would like to point to the above examples as what censorship should be defined as. I see some Hive users still claim there is censorship on this chain, when they get downvoted, muted or put on blacklists.
But when compared to changes made at the core level in the legacy blockchain which is Steem to block people from transacting (moving funds, voting or other core aspects of the chain), or completely “unpersoning” someones profile on the API level. And seizing funds and moving them into "community accounts".
I am really glad to be on Hive, as I do not worry about such things ever happening. Seeing these things happen on the old chain reminds me how it is no longer the place it used to be. And I can see why Steem’s altcoin cap has dropped so much in the recent times.
I don't worry too much about being censored there as I don't intend to post again, but having all my old stuff hidden is against the principles of blockchain. At least I didn't lose any funds and was able to convert all mine to $HIVE. That gave my account here a boost.
It really is amazing that old chain keeps going as it is rigged to support a few users and give crumbs to the rest. I think people are still joining, but they might be better off on Hive as long as they are not scammers.
The prices of the two coins used to be fairly close, but now $HIVE is well ahead and their 'stablecoin' has dropped a lot. That shows what value they have.
Yeah it sure is.. seeing them do such things is quite disappointing.. but it does seem to be their way of handling things.
Oh man I have not looked at SBD in awhile.. what a mess.
This makes Steem effectively a broken chain. The primary utility of decentralization is censorship-resistance.
Censorship has really been the only updates they do.
That's remarkable to see an account block coded into the chain itself.
You familiar with the 80 or so accounts who had their balances hard forked out (mine account included).
Sure seems like it.
It still looks like trash and that is pretty funny that they are still putting any energy into censoring accounts. I honestly thought they had all given up on the chain.
I'd be curious to see the Monthly/Daily active user numbers there, it can't be growing.
I wouldn't think so. I kind of wish there hadn't been the big push to punish people using both chains. I mean, I get why they did it, but I think it would have been cool to milk as much as I could from the other chain and throw it all into HIVE. I was doing that for a while until people started getting downvoted for it.
It's challenging for most people to recognize a pragmatic solution while sustaining a revolutionary spirit, at that moment it's pulling the brain in two different directions.
For sure. I would have loved to have milked Steem dry to boost my HIVE account.
It’s all fake stats anyway!
they do not let you see such things.. their API is closed I believe.
Somehow that is not surprising in the least.
Sure does... complete trash.
Its been years since I looked, I think I narrowly avoided being censored as I was giving them a hard time during the last few weeks.
There's still time, to leave your mark :)
Ah yeah I feel ya, I had thoughts of it happening to me too.
but who cares? If you see what Steemit is developing why bother - I had a jump 4 weeks ago there - intererstingly found some good guys from the past that got "fuc....ed" during the fork with no reason and lost stake - there have been mistakes why we lost Korean and other folks that did nothing wrong by mistake (obviously they are in favour of Steem - some tell me they like it there as it is peaceful and not focused on money).
Not sure if @steevc is that sad now or @acidyo - I am even surprised why that chain is a topic at all - however i would love to have some of the good guys here on Hive rather they get totally lost on Steemit.
I'd like some more people to come over. I just know that certain Hivers will not forgive past actions.
Well thats how we know that we are in the right place! At least for now!!! Waiting for the comments seeing people complaining about people who downvotes in 3…2…1
Heh yeah I can see people still complaining.. but when compared to what happens on the legacy chain they do not have much to say.
Censorship is the worst thing that can happen to any network!
Sure is..
And what about stealing and reusing your intellectual property?
Questionable.
This is already plagiarism - plagiarism is immediately banned 😁
Blocking accounts from transacting is a harsh violation of the principles of blockchains, makes it a shitcoin or even worse imho.
I agree, a big red flag for anyone looking into cryptocurrencies.
Worse.
Blocking users from blockchain is breack all the rules of blockchain, and transform steem in a goverment tool!
It is quite a mess over there.
What an absolute shit show, is it just propped up by Sun out of embarrassment these days? It needs to go to 0!
Sure is.. and I have no idea.. Sun probably moved onto new projects.
Yeah I would like to see that.
Blocking a user from transacting on-chain is one of the worst things that can happen. What could be worse?
Hah not much....
Downvoting isn't censorship, but it can be used as a bullying tactic. Does Hive have a block feature, where someone can block another account from viewing their content and therefore downvoting them? I don't know. I've never tried to use it.
Blocking an account on hive just blocks viewing it.. does not affect payouts.
Of course. If they've downvoted you and you block them, the downvote still counts. But can you block them after that and they no longer see your content. In that case, they can't downvote you. Correct?
No there is no block. Only mute.
So, if you block someone else, you're blocking yourself from seeing their content?
How could this be regarded after such actions? Downvotes or Muting can be understandable but how these core aspects are controlled in the chain I don't know as it seems everyone in that sphere are malicious, I don't think it could be happen here in Hive as it is showing a great deal of variety in actions and such illicit doings collectively is impossible in my observation.
It sure is shady, I do not want anything to do with that blockchain..
oh Yea.. Hive Rocks!! 😉😎🤘 I am so glad I found my way to hive now.. although I do look fondly on the old days in steemit..
why are u blacklisted?
blacklisted? as in banned?? i sure hope not. 😎🤙 but not long ago, i would just copy/paste a lot of things off of youtube and other online sources. I stopped doin that now.. all original stuff!
:)
That’s likely why. Hopefully doing right thing is enough to put that in past.
Glad to have you here :-)
Hm... time is arrived to dig deeper on that shithole.
Hah you will find a lot
already found something... but eh, dont know how to handle it xD
Eww there must be ways to move a community forward other than sensorship XD I don't know why they do that. I hope they block me too.
Probably how things are handled in China.
I see some very popular Hive accounts still daily post same content on both Steem & Hive. Why do these people still use Steemit? Seems like it shouldn’t be supported.
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yeah man
Never went back there and no second thought as well - hive is now our home.
Same here, I only look back to see what a trash fire it has become.
What a keen eye you are! ☘️
Hah I just watch many discussion groups.
Would not mind the “malicious voters” being blocked on hive ..
xD
yeah man
Nice flags buddy :D
Says the guy flagging a dozen accounts for no reason. You are a clown.
Yeah no reason
I had a private dispute which you did not like - so you obviously started flagging me.
Now you get some back.
Cry me a river.