Crypto dumps, opinions you will not read on the Newspaper.(or in the banks)

in #busy6 years ago (edited)

After a long conversation with my father on the phone (and exhausting)
father*
"The Bitcoin has fallen by 20 percent in the past two days!" (Panic)
It's true, Dad, but it almost rose 100 percent within a month.
Dad * There's an economist here who says that the bubble is exploding.
True, Dad, 99bitcoins site is Counting how many times they eulogized Bitcoin and see where bitcoin is now. I'm sure he only spoke slogans and cliches and did not explain his words (as always).
Do you know how he started the year dad?? At 700 dollars.
Dad*they say the Bitcoin Cash is exploding up and maybe take the government in the crypto world
It's true Father there is a coin called Bitcoin Cash, playing with people who do not understand like a doll on a string with a coin that is not worth anything really.
So why does he come up asking Dad?

  • Lots of stupid money Dear father, lots of people who come not for the technology but for "bringing the blow".

These are actually the articles that we see in the newspaper when the Bitcoin falls (which I believe are financed by banks)
The capital rule did we say?!.

But unfortunately the masses believe them very easily and people take advantage of their power to lower the price of the Bitcoin and buy it cheaply...to store their value in a blockchain(takes up less space) lol.

What do I believe? As one who invests in Bitcoin since 2012?
Tell the truth. Apparently Bitcoin will not rule alone in the world of digital currencies, but Bitcoin Cash?
seriously? Why? Because it can hold 50 transactions per second ?!
Well , then I'll buy steem ... or steem dollars sets.
Or I'll actually buy Ripple.
Or Iota.
True, most of my investment portfolio is in Bitcoin because I think that the best minds in the world are for him and he is really the only social currency! (Not the extra coin called Bitcoin Cash ,gold ,1,2,3,4 Starts to sound like a television company ).
But I also hold
EOS
STEEM
NEO
OMG
ETHEREUM
And more coins, really, friends that I feel most relaxed in the world! Why? First of all, these steep declines are familiar to me since 2012, when the decline in the day was 80 percent, not 5-10 percent, and it only proves to me that the more money goes into the fluctuations, the smaller the fluctuations so one day it we will use it as a currency as well.
That Bitcoin is going to undergo upgrades (lighting network, atomic cross-chain)
They would probably drop the Bitcoin Cash to the floor! Bitcoin has the strongest community and the most powerful name there is and it's a lot!

So is Dad are you relaxed? I asked after an hour of conversation
Dad-yeah good night son lol. I hope you are also calm whoever you are, take a breath and drink water. We are in an economic revolution

Warren Buffett's Last Sentence "When everyone is brave you'll be a coward and when everyone is cowardly you'll be brave" Good night :)

אחרי שיחה ארוכה עם אבא שלי בטלפון.(ומתישה חח)
אבא*
"הביטקוין ירד ב20 אחוז ביומיים האחרונים!"(פאניקה)
נכון אבא אבל זה עלה כמעט במאה אחוז בתוך חודש.
אבא* יש פה כלכלן שאומר שהנה הבועה מתפוצצת.
נכון אבא , יש באתר 99ביטקוין ספירה של כמה פעמים הספידו את ביטקוין וזה לא עזר לאף אחד אני בטוח שהוא רק דיבר בסיסמאות וקלישאות ולא הסביר את דבריו (כמו תמיד).
אתה יודע איך הוא התחיל את השנה? ב-700 דולרים.
אבא- אומרים שהביטקוין קאש מתפוצץ למעלה ואולי ייקח את השילטון בעולם הקריפטו
נכון אבא יש מטבע שנקרא ביטקוין קאש, משחקים באנשים שלא מבינים כולם בביטקוין כמו בובה על חוט עם מטבע שלא שווה שום דבר באמת.
אז למה הוא עולה שואל אבא?
*המון כסף טיפש אבא יקר ,המון אנשים שלא באים בשביל הטכנולוגיה אלא בשביל "להביא את המכה".

אלה בעצם הכתבות שאנחנו רואים בעיתון כשהביטקוין נופל (שאני מאמין שממומנות על ידי בנקים)
הון שלטון.

אבל ההמון מאמין להם בקלות רבה ואנשים מנצלים את הכוח שלהם בשביל להוריד את מחיר הביטקוין ולקנות אותו בזול.
נכון אבא.

במה אני מאמין? בתור אחד שמשקיע בביטקוין משנת 2012?
אומר את האמת. כנראה שביטקוין לא ישלוט לבד בעולם המטבעות הדיגיטליים, אבל ביטקוין קאש?
ברצינות? למה? בגלל שהוא יכול להחזיק 50 טרנזקציות בשניה?!
נו אז אני אקנה סטים... או סטים דולר.
או שאני בעצם אקנה ריפל.
או איוטה. הם מחזיקים הרבה יותר טרנזקציות בשנייה
נכון, רוב תיק ההשקעות שלי נמצא בביטקוין כי אני חושב שטובי המוחות בעולם בעדו והוא באמת המטבע החברתי היחיד! (לא המטבע המיותר שנקרא ביטקוין קאש).
אבל אני גם מחזיק
EOS
STEEM
NEO
OMG
ETHEREUM
ועוד מטבעות, חברים באמת שאני מרגיש הכי רגוע בעולם! למה? קודם כל הירידות החדות האלה מוכרות לי עוד משנת 2012 , שהירידה ביום הייתה של 80 אחוז ולא של 5-10 אחוז וזה רק מוכיח לי שככל שנכנס כסף התנודות נהיות קטנות יותר ויותר.
כי ביטקוין עומד לעבור שידרוגים (lighting network,atomic crosschain)
שכנראה יפילו את הביטקוין קאש לריצפה! לביטקוין יש את הקהילה הכי חזקה ואת השם הכי חזק שיש.

נו אז נרגעת אבא ? שאלתי אחרי שעה של שיחה
אבא- כן לילה טוב חח . אני מקווה שגם אתם רגועים , קחו נשימה תשתו מים. אנחנו נמצאים במהפכה כלכלית

משפט לבסוף של וורן באפט "כשכולם אמיצים תהיה פחדן וכשכולם פחדנים תהיה אמיץ" לילה טוב :)

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First of all, let's start with your father, I'm pretty sure that's how every father thinks because I have the same conversations with my father as well. If a writer wrote an article on Calcalist about how Bitcoin is dangerous and is a "Bubble" he immediatly tells me. " Yair, Look at this, he said it's a bubble, what are you doing?? "

Parents can't understand this unless they knew about it a long time ago, They prefer seeing their own money instead of buying "Virtual money" My father invested in Euro's. Bought Euro in order to sell when the rate goes up.

I've Steem + Ethereum as well and i can't agree with you more on Bitcoin Cash.

People tend to freak out when there's a drop on Bitcoin prices, but as you said, they need to understand that the price in January 2017 was 900$. WE ARE ALL GOOD.

and I'll end with a quote I really like which fits perfectly for this situation as well : "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now."

This is a brilliant post Noam. Hats off to you for sharing this conversation with your Dad. I go through these questions several times when my friends ask me. You have beautifully answered them. In fact its a coincidence that i also hold Neo. Steem . Etherium. Eos. OMG apart from bitcoin in my portfolio. Resteeming this post since i feel every steemitian needs to read this to be able to articulate bitcoins growth to everyone who is not at all aware about cryptos and just make noise reading the newspapers.
Regards Nainaz
#thealliance

thank you, my friend, I appreciate it a lot!😃

נועם המון בהצלחה. אתה ביצעת צעדים אמיצים מתוך הבנה וגם אידיאולוגיה ומגיע לך לקצור פירות.
הפחדים שהתקשורת זורעת במודע הם נלוזים וברור שהרבה נפגעים מהטרור התקשורתי.
וגם אבא שלך.
יחד עם זה צריך לזכור שלהורים שלנו יש ניסיון חיים
וגם זה שווה משהו.
נראה לי שאבא שלך אומר לך לא לשים את כל הביצים בסל אחד ופה אתה מסכים איתו כמובן.
הבעיה היא שעדיין יכולים לחייב אותנו בשקלים עם המיסים וכל סוגי הגניבות והקנסות למיניהם.
לכן חשוב לא לקחת הלוואות.
לא מבנקים ולא מאיש.
ברגע שאין לך חובות ויש לך בסיס אבא שלך יהיה רגוע.

אני חושב שאתה משקיע שעושה מהלכים מחושבים ומבריקים עם הבנה אמיתית.
מהניסיון הקצר שלי אני אומר ששווה לשים חלק מההשקעה בעצת ההורים.

תמשיך להצליח ומקווה שהחלוציות שלך תביא לפה עוד רבות וטובות ורבים וטובים.

that is very true @amirl never invest what you can not afford..

I love and hate having the same conversations you did with your dad.

יש מצב שהנפילות האלה הם גם תוצאה של הפריצה לבורסה למטבעות הדרום קוריאנית שדיברו עליה.
עוד משהו זה שחייב לשפר את הממשק של העברית בsteemit דחוףףף.
תודה על המידע.

לגמרי

@amiramnoam - Lol. your conversation with your father reflects pretty much the ones that I have with my wife and friends. I am not heavily invested in crypto but just because I mess around with Steemit, everyone loses no opportunities to show me every little scrap of news which says bitcoin is a bubble. I tried to explain that bitcoin has had over 90 orbituries in the last few years and is still going strong but alas.... they do not understand. Anyway - thanks for this entertaining as well as useful article. Also - thanks for sharing your portfolio info. Will look into those coins. Kudos. Upvoted full

Regards,

@vm2904

bitcoin it's the first cryptocurrency and the origine, so it's the best choice. over 80% of my wallet is bitcoin. just dont care about what others says.

Great article! I agree with you, and hope that we are right. My portfolio is mostly BTC, added some more to it at this dip. What are your predictions, when will BTC rise again?

In my opinion, when the brokers come to their senses and when the Bitcoins are slightly lower (lighting network)

Wow, I try to imagine how you felt after hanging up the phone, for sure it's hard to explain a phenomenon like Bitcoin to someone who maybe know all about just from news, and I am speaking generally here. I remember last December I had a similar discussion with my friends about BTC, back then the price went from $700 up to $100 and the panic was created, some of us said the best investment is to sell urgent, some of us chose to believe in it and give it more time to see how far can it go. It is hard and complicated sometimes, when so many news, facts and predictions are meant to underline a lifestyle on the crypto market, but after all it is the personal choice that matter the most. If you trust BTC and decide to have patience, I am more than sure you will see even higher point for it, after all, as you already said, it has fallen 20 percent in a day but rose 100 percent in a month, so it doesn't mean big loose for someone who invested in BTC in the beginning of the last year. Day by day more people catch the fever of crypto currencies, and that helps a lot. More invested money, more stability. So trust your gut. Wish you a fresh mindset, and Merry Christmas!

Might i ask, what is the best coins to hold as of this moment?
I wan't to diversify my portfolio and invest in some other coins aside from bitcoin and steem/sbd.
Any tips for a cryptonewbie will help. :D

Cheers and more power @amiramnoam! :)

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the market wil lcrash a bit as always then you will see BTC again in $30k or more just as always.
lots of crashes happened this year but the rise of the price comes most of the cryptocurrencies doubled in value too many times

Times are changing and while is good not to forget the past in order not to repeat it ("since 2012, when the decline in the day was 80 percent") I think that the conditions and the market size now represents a new game. While we can hope to bet on the wining horse, it's clear that we cannot predict the "mood" of the market. But, nevertheless we collect what we sow.

I actually wrote an article with some answers and my humble opinion of what is happening in the near term. Check it out if you like...
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@cryptkeeper17/bitcoin-value-forecast-a-brief-simple-short-term-analysis

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Nice article! Thanks for the info and I was relieved a little bit haha! Give you an upvote ;)

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just hodl bitcoin and steem and relax. we will be good :)

Bitcoin is the internet explorer of crypto... the coin/browser used get other coins/browsers. Bitcoin cash is Microsoft Edge.

not a good analogical.. :)
In my opinion it's very different

Upvote ofmy post please

March 2018
bitcoin = fifty thousand dollars (:

Say, there ours one thing I just can't get - how can bitcoin become a real world currency when the price is so unstable? Say I charge x bitcoins for a product but tomorrow the price drops down heavily - I will lose a lot of money and I can't afford out... I must have stability especially since many businesses rely on a very marginal profit... will be happy for your answer. תודה!

I agree with you... Bitcoin all the way, it is father of all crytocurrency.

Bit of a healthy debate question: Everyone is saying bitcoin is going to be THE crypto, I just don't see how the tech behind makes it deserve no. 1 (4 transactions per second? That is tortoise speed!) .

Can anyone explain objectively why it will number 1?

there is a lot of work on the bitcoin core protocol (i wrote -lighting network and atomic cross-chain)
+it's popularity and because it's the coin of the peoples ,no one behind it actually except Satoshi Nakamoto..

thanks for sharing @amiramnoam

it's a brave new world in here

Sure! Love the last sentence...."When everyone is brave you'll be a coward and when everyone is cowardly you'll be brave"
For those who keep making money, they keep investing when the price is low. Thanks for sharing

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Interesting post, I have a very brief, to the point post about where I think Bitcoin in going in the near future. Feel free to check it out and tell what you think it is very relevant to what you're talking about here.
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@cryptkeeper17/bitcoin-value-forecast-a-brief-simple-short-term-analysis

Thanks for your information and thank for writing two language to know easy @amiramnoam

Excelente post, creo que todos en algún momento desde que nos unimos al mundo de las criptomonedas hemos tenido una charla similar con familiares y amigos.

A mi muy personal punto de vista creo que veremos esta volatilidad hasta que el bitcoin alcance su capitalización máxima, dado que es algo nuevo y no solo el tema de la cadena de bloques, los contratos inteligentes, las criptomonedas, debemos de estar conscientes de que en la actualidad son muy pocas las personas que realmente están al pendiente de las nuevas tecnologías.

Es complejo que alguien de 40 años en adelante que no requiere estar informado al 100% de las nuevas tecnologías entienda algo de las criptomonedas y de las muchas aplicaciones de la cadena de bloques o el uso de los contratos inteligentes.

De hecho en méxico la gente que ya es económicamente activa duda mucho porque su criterio lo basa en lo que en la televisión se dice y el hecho de mencionar que es descentralizada y no regularizada crea un miedo en invertir, es penoso decirlo pero la gran mayoría de los mexicanos se siguen guiando por lo que la prensa escrita y la televisión dicen y como bien sabemos muchas veces o la gran parte de las ocasiones están fuera de toda la realidad.

Sin duda que el bitcoin como el resto de las criptomonedas tendrá que seguir su éxito por gente que conoce, confía, apoya y da poder a este concepto y como lo he dicho siempre esto del bitcoin y las criptomonedas, no es ni será para todos, únicamente para quienes dejan de pensar de forma arcaica y no evolucionan.

thanks for sharing ,,upvote and @resteem.

thank for the info,,,good post.
...resteem...

but in my opinion Bitcoin once again go up and its is also the study and research that bitcoin is the future of the world and it will hit the about $400,000 so take the bitcoin as soon as possible it will make the millionaire

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You are just going to keep seeing the pump and dump thing happening on the exchanging. It's how the stock market grew and right now it's prime for the picking to really make some crazy money. The crypto revolution is here and you can all me the wolf of doge street.

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Interesting post ! Doing great ! best of luck for your BTC and all alt coins my friend !!

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