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RE: How Byteball airdrop is screwing over the Steem community

in #byteball6 years ago

You are doing a lot of good things here on steemit. That´s why I can forgive your byteball shills. Despite you not even apologizing for it.

You guys (like witnesses) should have seen that. I have no clue about the technical things of steem/steemit/byteballs and even I understand your explanations. Is it really that hard to foreseaw what just happened?

Somehow you guys can see through the technical stuff of a scammy Jerry Banfield SMT despite SMT not even being released. But you can´t foresee that people will create low reputation spam accounts to grab the airdrop.

lol

No one of you guys who shilled this (useless shitcoin btw) cared about it. You were just greedy. Hoping to make some thousands of dollars of easy cash.

Now when others stole your not hardly earned money you suddenly turn mad and complain.

I don´t feel sorry for you at all.

And btw I think you guys should not give the responsibility to Byteballs. I rather have greedy witnesses than witnesses who have no fucking clue how steemit works. Because if you say it´s all Byteballs fault you admit that you are too stupid to have seen it coming.

I won´t unvote you as a witness. But you insult my intelligence with your behaviour right now.

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To think that we had no idea exactly what types of abusive behavior we could expect to see would be quite ignorant. We needed this to make a huge impact and spread like wildfire from the get-go. That definitely happened.

Obviously, I have to disagree that Byteball is a shit project and GBYTE is a shitcoin. There are actually quite a few rather interesting use cases that people who take the time see beyond the "free money" would learn. I saw this one from a Steem user today: https://steemit.com/byteball/@teamhumble/88ya1df6 - interesting to see someone actually taking time to look at what some features could potentially be used for.

The campaign definitely brought the problem of plagiarism and spam into full spotlight. Needless to say, that definitely wasn't our intention.

I think you all did quite well. You made a huge splash. That much attention would have cost way, way more with traditional advertising. I myself am will be using your crypto sports betting.

Most people on steem have NO CLUE about business, just an fyi.

Are you a part of the byteball team? Just curious

No one of you guys who shilled this (useless shitcoin btw) cared about it. You were just greedy. Hoping to make some thousands of dollars of easy cash.

It is not greedy to take advantage of a good opportunity. There was a clear advantage to both parties, users referred made a lot of money (for some as much as posting on Steem for a year), so I don't see it the same as "shilling a coin" as that typically is only for the shill's benefit.

Now when others stole your not hardly earned money you suddenly turn mad and complain.

My concern was l the fact users (who felt they were anonymous) went around acting as thieves. I researched users who did this on most Byteball posts, not only my own. While I am of course upset people stole most of my referrals, I was more upset so many users felt it was ok to steal from other people.

I rather have greedy witnesses than witnesses who have no fucking clue how steemit works

A witness is just another human Steemian, we have lives, interests, and want to make money. Anyone convinces you otherwise is likely lying or delusional. If I felt promoting it would have harmed users or only benefited myself, I would have never said a damn thing about it.

Both you, and @themarkymark bring up some valid points, as I see it.

Big kudos @noobsin to "tell it like you see it". Steemit needs much more of this: people feeling free to speak their mind instead of fear to get flagged. And that says nothing about my own perception, whether I agree with your points or not.

Indeed @themarkymark is doing a lot of good things on Steemit, and despite a few "provocative words" here and there written by @noobsin , I think you guys more or less agree on a lot of Steem-related issues!
You could become best friends even! :P

Steem on!

One of the big problems of steem as I see it is that there are too many pathetic bootlickers who say what they think they will be rewarded for rather than maintaning moral integrity

So quite refreshing to see both that there are still users that say what they actually think and people with a lot of SP who stand and defend their opinion rather than downvoting the hell out of people for speaking their mind

As to the users abusing the airdrop as in stealing referals claiming the attestation fee multiple times we know who many of them are I dont think its right the let them maintain a high rep score simply downvote the fuckers into the ground

The trick is to maintain moral integrity without being a jerk about it. I think many people find that level of diplomacy to be impossible for them.

There is also a fairly large amount of people who will say just about anything as long as they believe others will upvote

Perfect response.
Good to see there are people out there brave enough to call out the bull.

Well done.
👍

i am following you

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Your comments about other comments being comment spam is itself comment spam. Please stop adding to the spam...then summoning another spam bot. Every time you do this, you add twice as much spam as the original spammer...and you’re being rewarded for it, which you are apparently hypocritically opposed to when it comes to the original spammer.

In other words: You’re not the solution...you’re in fact a bigger problem.

Hello @ats-david,
I somewhat agree with you.
I am the co-owner of this account with my wife @lovenfreedom.
We created it to be a downvote bot to support our team of minnow abuse fighters @steemflagrewards.
We are slowly building its rep and sp. We have one small delegation for this Admiral account now. We would like to never leave another comment on steemit with this account.
If you would help us find some delegations we could do that.

Then we would not have to leave any comments other than the first explanation to the account flagged.

All abuse fighting accounts on steemit leave a comment behind a flag so the account owner understands why they have been flagged. If you look on this post there are comments from spaminator as well that came after our flags and comments

Those comments appear above ours but they came after us and were upvoted above our comments.

If you can tell us a better way to fight abuse on steemit we are open ears.

We are investors in steem, all stake we own we purchased.

Fighting abuse is important to us.
I spend 12 hours a day most days of a week fighting abuse.
My wife and son make interesting posts about our homestead.
I hope you will work with us and help us find a good solution to this problem.

@iamstan you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!

Hi @ats-david, we are working on making our bot only comment once per post. The comments are currently the mechanism for flaggers to receive rewards.

I do think we can devise another method. Maybe, the people can comment on the @steemflagrewards threads to receive their vote.

What do you think? Sound like a good solution?

We can make it happen. Thanks for the feedback!

P.S. I forgot that another reason for the flag comment is intended to educate, inform, and explain the flag to the user. With that in mind, one comment per flagged comment seems the better route but we can require follow on flags to reply to the original flag comments to keep them on their own thread.

@anthonyadavisii you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!

Please stop telling the spammer to stop spamming the other spammer because this is infact spam and part of the problem.