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RE: Steem Basic Income FAQ Contest - 500 SBI in Prizes

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I just sent a transaction sponsoring someone and I’m not seeing an upvote on my posts, did you miss my transaction?

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On the old system usually it is because you have to wait 7 days to update your data on the list. This uses to happen before the automated system. Now with the new system this is updated with a delay of 3 hours.
Also can be that you misspelled/wrong write the name and because that you
get any upvote

Rating 3

The answer have some grammar issues and outdated information shouldn't be appearing on FAQ answer, that's a waste of everybody's time.

Response blends the old delays with the new system, but even under new system it's up to 3 hour delay, rather than immediate.

Since you originally submitted before the deadline, you are welcome to edit your submission and I will review again.

Edit: Technically accurate. Response accepted as a qualifying submission.

Don't forget you can also earn points by scoring the clarity and helpfulness of other qualifying responses.

Thanks, i edited and write the new answer :)

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3 clarity point

Who cares about the old system? That's two sentences wasted. Also new member's posts aren't being upvoted is because they start at zero rshares balance and there's a minimum threshold to get upvoted.

I bought my first share or was gifted a share and haven't seen an upvote?

It can take time for the system to update the share that you bought or won. Please wait and post again after a few days if you are still not seeing any upvotes please reach out to an admin in our discord Or you can reach out to @josephsavage about the issue. Discord is preferred contact.

Rating 5

Great addition of means of contacting SBI. However, one of the most common reason someone with low amount of units not get upvoted is due to the minimum vote threshold and in my opinion that's the most important piece the answer of this question needs. Should've included that.

Accurate. It should be noted that with our new minimum upvote threshold (to prevent dusting of upvotes) that many members may not have a high enough enrollment level to receive an upvote on every post. Your submission has been accepted as a qualifying response.

Don't forget you can also earn points by scoring the clarity and helpfulness of other qualifying responses.

Rating 5 - helpful answer, but mention of those points noted by sbi-booster would increase the score.

Rated 5. Clear enough but needed to explain threshold vote value and I allocated 2points for that.

Suggestion on rephrasing the question: I just sent a transaction sponsoring someone and I’m not seeing an upvote on my posts. How do I check that it was not missed in processing?

Yes, it is possible that your transaction could have been missed but before concluding to that, check first your rshares and ensure that you have enough for the threshold of $0.011. If you have low rshares, there could be missed days of upvote because your upvotes can either have been accumulated for one "big" upvote or divided into few days of smaller but significant upvotes. This is rather than daily upvotes of dust value.

If your rshares are clearly enough or even more than the threshold, your transaction could have indeed been missed. If that is the case, I suggest that you contact @steembasicincome through Discord.

This used to be accurate. Since we released our automated system a few weeks ago, enrollments are processed automatically within 2.4 hours. The confirmation transactions are still manual and typically sent within 2 days. New members start with enough balance for an initial vote, but after the initial vote the frequency depends on their enrollment level. Members with only 1 unit will see upvotes very infrequently (sporadic upvotes of $0.011 instead of regular tiny upvotes).

You are welcome to edit your submission and I will review again (or you can resubmit if your edit is substantial.)

Edit: Looks good now. Response accepted as a qualifying submission.

Don't forget you can also earn points by scoring the clarity and helpfulness of other qualifying responses.

I initially answered the question based on my own experience and not going through the old posts. With your reply, I reviewed the documents and found the answer that is almost the same as my initial answer. That tells me, the post is outdated and a new one is out there. I guess this is where the importance of a @steembasicinome web page comes in so that we users will just go to that web page instead of digging very old posts.

I have updated my response. 😊

Yep, there is a lot of old information, and we know that a lot of important updates get missed for various reasons. That's the purpose of this exercise: to help people better understand the new changes and create a new FAQ in the process.

We do have a web-site launch in our roadmap, but it's not our top priority.

Rating 5 - a good attempt, details are ok but it is technical and difficult to follow for a new user. One of the harder questions to create a simple, clear summary.

Rated 6. Very accurate but I just feel you can better explain or present that for the sake of a common user or noob. Explaining with rshares will make it confusing to a noob.

Within 24 hours of sponsorship, check your rshares with sbi status. If the value in dollars exceeds 0.01, you will receive an upvote

This is worded oddly. I think you meant to say 'if the value in dollars exceeds 0.01, you will receive an upvote'. The suggestion to check with !sbi status is a good one!

You are welcome to edit your submission and I will review again (or you can resubmit if your edit is substantial.)

Edit: Looks good now. Response accepted as a qualifying submission.

Don't forget you can also earn points by scoring the clarity and helpfulness of other qualifying responses.

Thanks for the warning. So it was meant. I lost my translation with Google translator

Rating 4, I think the threshold is $0.011

Yes. At present, the threshold is $ 0.011.
That's why I write in my comment that it's worth $ 0.01

Rating 5 - Accurate with the edit, but use of jargon (rshares) without context is confusing.

A detailed description of rshares is in this article

Rated 5. Describe the bot command to check the units/rshares

Again what happens if I say my potential upvote value is $0.02 and I have not received an upvote? In short, you needed to include how to reach the team.

There are two ways to control SBI units.
The first option is to enter the "!sbi status" command anywhere in the comment or article on steem.com. In response to this command, one of the sbi pools will be reported with a detailed description.
Second option:
log on to the discord SBI, using Ginabot on # requst-verification to register your steem account. Next choose the channel # bot-commands and | Use !Sbi yourname to check your SBI units, or !Sbi-a yourname for rshares detail|

Hi @bucipuci!

  • you have 47 units and 5 bonus units
  • your rshares balance is 238911070969 or 0.131 $
  • your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.026 $

With this additional info, I change my rating to 6.

Thanks ;-)

They didn't miss your transaction unless you typed in the wrong name. They might be just updating their databases and processing the share to be added to your account. You just have to patiently wait

Accurate. Response accepted as a qualifying submission.

Don't forgot you can also earn points by scoring the clarity and helpfulness of other qualifying responses.

Rated 5. Very clear but there is a threshold for voting that was supposed to be explained. That takes away the 2points

Rating 5 - not enough detail and certain reasons for a lack of vote not included - for example the minimum vote threshhold.

If it has been at least three hours, you can check your enrollment by typing in a comment:
!sbi status
How frequently you receive upvotes depends on how many shares you have and how often you post, so you may not receive one on every post you make!

Hi @phoenixwren!

  • you have 148 units and 0 bonus units
  • your rshares balance is 618908921594 or 0.323 $
  • your next SBI upvote is predicted to be 0.065 $

Accurate. Response accepted as a qualifying submission.

Don't forgot you can also earn points by scoring the clarity and helpfulness of other qualifying responses.

Rating 6 - overall accurate without overcomplicating the answer.

Rating 6

Good and accurate answer but I feel like it could be worded better.

6 clarity point
Nice and short but seems like the question is directed more to the fact that the user have no rshares balance when they just joined...

Transactions take a maximum of 144 minutes to be processed by the system. So, if you did not see a vote, it only means that your potential upvote value is not up to the threshold value of $0.011 and you simply have to wait until it accumulates to that amount.

Try checking your sbi unit details on Steem or on the SBI discord server and confirm if you will see a similar message to this;

If you do not see a message like that, quickly reach out to the team on discord.

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This is mostly accurate, but to reduce server load we are processing transactions every 144 minutes (right before each rshares accrual cycle). There could be up to 2.4 hours delay between when an enrollment transaction is sent and when it shows in the member unit counts.

You are welcome to edit your submission and I will review again (or you can resubmit if your edit is substantial.)

Edit: came back because I forgot to include that you can edit and resubmit, and I see that you have made edits already! Response accepted as a qualifying submission.

Don't forgot you can also earn points by scoring the clarity and helpfulness of other qualifying responses.

Edited, thanks!

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Rating 7 - a very good response, clear and with an example.

@steembasicincome indeed didn't miss your transaction!

  1. The most likely reason for asking the q: they are processing you to become a member for the SBI initiative. Since this project is still being automated, there will be errors along the way. Regardless, humanpower can only do so much in a day and requires a lot of time to process people (both you and the sponsor). So wait a few days before seeing the first ever SBI vote from the many, many SBI accounts (from @steembasicincome to now @sbi8???).
  2. The second most likely reason: Considering the bear economy of Steemit and the constant shifting of which SBI bot account does which upvoting, it could be easily the fault of the bear economy. I can only cite anecdotally here and not claim for a certain fact. Once the bear economy is resolved for a time being, expect consistent upvotes. (To clarify, they do consistent upvoting; I mean from the same SBI Bot for decent stretch of time.)
  3. Third most likely reason: The transaction got misprocessed! Best to resolve it by directly contacting the SBI staff and getting it fixed ASAP. The sooner, the better (for their eyes and your sanity).
  4. Fourth most likely reason: Your transaction funds where insufficient for the minimum required for at least 1 SBI share. The cost is 1 STEEM. To do more SBI Shares, go up by one integer value (exampli gratia: 2 STEEM for 2 SBI Shares, N STEEM for N SBI Shares).

So much here!

  1. most automation has been completed, so enrollment transactions are typically processed within 2.4 hrs. The first upvote should come on the next post after enrollment is processed, though sometimes it's delivered on a previous post that is less than one day old. Subsequent upvotes may take a lot longer as members with only 1 unit accrue upvote value very slowly.
  2. Accurate. This does relate to the slow earn rate on low subscription levels. When STEEM prices rise again, the rshares minimum will start to fall (since fewer rshares are needed to add up to $0.011) and members will indeed see more consistent upvotes (or larger upvotes if the subscription level is high enough to get upvotes on every post already.
  3. Accurate, though rare.
  4. Accurate. We try to refund amounts that are too low within 2-3 days.

You are welcome to edit your submission and I will review again (or you can resubmit if your edit is substantial.)

Rating 6 - Quite detailed, with a few different scenarios. point 1 could be redone as automation is here.

Rated 5. It's just too complex and I find it difficult to understand even the points that should be simple to understand. I wonder how a common user would see this!

I rate this answer a 5 - TMI

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Wait....

After writing a new post, in a day or two you should start seeing upvotes from @steembasicincome or is associated @sbi accounts. If you don't screw many shares, it will take some time for your vote value to be high enough to trigger above a low point threshold. After this point, your post will be voted on. Below this, the vote will not register (this the reason for the threshold).

This is mostly accurate. We didn't announce it very well, but new members start with enough rshares balance for an initial vote now. Members that actively post should see an upvote shortly after enrollment (typically on their next post, sometimes on their most recent post). The next upvote could still take a while.

The threshold is set at $0.011, which is much higher than the threshold below which votes don't register, but that 'tax' on small upvotes is why we set a minimum upvote threshold.
You are welcome to edit your submission and I will review again (or you can resubmit if your edit is substantial.)

Rating 6, the actual threshold should be mentioned

Rated as 5. Does not explains the threshold and checking sbi balance to be sure if the sbi unit(s) for the transaction has been added. As, well as reaching out to the team if one is convinced there is a problem with the system.