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RE: Does anyone here actually believe anti-covid conspiracy theories?

in #covid4 years ago (edited)

It's hard to believe any source of information these days. It could be true that conspiracy theories are false but there's a high chance that some of them relating to Covid could be true as well.

I recieved this message on whatsapp from a doctor friend of mine. I'll share a part of the message here:

The number of deaths in the world in the last 3 months of 2020
3,14,687 : Corona virus
3,69,602 : Common cold
3,40,584 : Malaria
3,53,696 : suicide
3,93,479 : road accidents
2,40,950 : HIV
5,58,471 : alcohol
8,16,498 : smoking
11,67,714: Cancer
Then do you think Corona is dangerous?
Or
is the purpose of the media campaign to settle the trade war between China and America
or
to reduce financial markets to prepare the stage of financial markets for mergers and acquisitions
or
to sell US Treasury bonds to cover the fiscal deficit in them
Or
Is it a Panic created by Pharma companies to sell their products like sanitizer, masks, medicine etc.
Do not Panic & don't kill yourself with unecessary fear. This posting is to balance your newsfeed from posts that caused fear and panic.

I'm not sure how accurate are these numbers but looking at them, it surely seems sketchy that the government wouldn't care about people dying from other causes but would shut down the world for something which has a similar mortality rate or lesser than the other causes. I for sure know that the number of people dying of road accidents in my country is far more than anything else.

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Good point. No other disease or death cause around the world matters anymore besides Corona. It's like it's everything that matters right now. In my country people have died suffering from serious conditions because it took too long to make them the test and they couldn't make it until the results came. I understand that we should protect our health and the others around us but lets look beyond Corona and be lucid about it.

@acesontop True man. It's been blown out of proportion. I've also got some info from inner sources (doctors) in my neighboring hospitals where in they suggested one of our friends who had mild fever not to visit the hospital. The reason given was that anybody who was visiting and showed mild symptoms of fever were being shown positive and suggested a quarantine at the hospital. The doctor was a relative of that friend. Also, people who die of other causes are being shown as covid +ve because of the government incentive. It's sad that people aren't even getting to perform last rites for their family members at some places.

...imagine if we had no one questioning the government psi -op?
(you know, those 'crazy' conspiracy theorists. lol)

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It's hilarious that if you ctrl-f "crazy" in this post and comment section, the only ones saying "crazy conspiracy theories" are the ones defending them.

...yet you downvote me for presenting facts ?
The very ones given by the establishment.

...you don't like the message that invalidates your position - even if it's factual and from sources that you believe .

Facts do not seem important to you, narrative does.
Winning a losing argument take precedence over facts.
(So you shoot the messenger) lolol

Well done, comrade.

downvoted cause of ctime

So @ctime upvoted for positive reasons.(factual evidence presented to you in the screen shot I provided).
And you downvoted because it was ctime that upvoted?

Nothing to do with the presented evidence?
i.e the facts were irrelevant, and taking rewards off me (not ctime) was a positive action to take?
I do wonder why hive isn't growing - in 4 years.
Do you?

Oh I'm definitely not denying the origins of covid, whether it was created by accident or not and if not then what it's purpose is. I also realize it's not the biggest killer out there (although India and the U.S. may be starting to disagree on that) and I have nothing against people mistrusting the status quo but ignoring everything and not wearing masks and pretending you're so sure it's not real, or as dangerous, or whatever else they say about it (bill gates ulterior motives, 5g towers, etc) is just unnecessary risky for no clear advantage.

ignoring everything and not wearing masks and pretending you're so sure it's not real, or as dangerous, or whatever else they say about it (bill gates ulterior motives, 5g towers, etc) is just unnecessary risky for no clear advantage.

Why do we all have to wear masks and be obliged to do that? Why can't just the ones afraid of the virus do that. This is what bothers me and find outrageous, that we all have to obey for the fear of a few. If one considers that wearing a mask or having a damn vaccine would make him feel safe let him do that, I'm not against it, but don't force everyone do that, and that's where the problem is. Governments should let me decide for myself. If they care that much about world's health why don't they ban coca cola, cigarettes, poisonous food ingredients such as aspartame, diabetes causing beverages and foods and so on... Aren't these killing people as well? Such things are ringing bells around the corona pandemic. The sovereignty over my body and health should only be in my hands. If you feel like wearing the mask, do that, but don't force me too...

Why do you think they'd force you to wear a mask if it wasn't to protect yourself and others? Like seriously.

Are you saying people should choose if they should vaccinate their babies or not as well?
I realize they should ban more things, everyone would be better off without sugar and cigarettes but there's a lot of money in them that they like to spend on lawyers. No one is trying to lawyer up to defend Covid from continuously existing.

Why do you think they'd force you to wear a mask if it wasn't to protect yourself and others? Like seriously

Because they are power hungry control freaks, maybe to condition people to accept mandatory vaccine, maybe as a ‘test’ to see how many people will blindly follow a totalitarian government edict that has absolutely no basis in the available scientific evidence, maybe to further instill fear into the population and dehumanize us, see how far we will go blindly following orders before saying ‘enough is enough’ and refusing to comply...

The real question should be why are the governments mandating measures that their own science shows is ineffective at stopping the spread of viruses? Do I now qualify as one of those crazy conspiracy theorists who shouldn’t be rewarded for my research in your eyes simply because I point out scientific studies (published in prestigious medical journals no less) that all agree that masks are ineffective at stopping transmission of the virus?

Why is the government mandating mask wearing when Dr. Fauci himself has said it’s a bad idea, when the surgeon general himself says it offers no protection to the public????

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Or do the statements of these authority figures who don’t line up with the current agenda also not count? Are they conspiracy nuts too?

I have nothing against you wearing a mask, but stop thinking you have the right to force me to wear one, particularly when the science agrees they are ineffective! I have the right not to subject myself to an “unsafe” (as defined by OSHA) oxygen-deprived environment, even if it makes you feel unsafe. Just like you have a right to wear one, even though I might not believe it is effective.

Those supporting the mandatory mask measures clearly care little about the evidence and only about the narrative.

...the narrative is all to those supporting the authority..

A strange stance to take in the 'crypt revolution', imo.
I never realized so many 'cypto revolutionaries' wore wool.lol

Why can't just the ones afraid of the virus do that

Because like everyone else, you're missing the point OR refusing to acknowledge it.

Masks are worn primarily to protect others, not yourself!! So by not wearing one, you are not making a personal statement of your 'freedom', you're saying 'fuck you Jack, I'm ok'!

Sovereignty over my body? You're being asked to wear a mask when you're in public, not being asked to chop your hand off!!

You are missing the point. Do some research and see that masks are almost useless in protecting you from the virus. And yeah I do have that attitude that you mentioned about and it's my right to have. Of course nobody is chopping anyone's hand, but once you get the whole picture and connect the dots you'll see why this masks narrative makes sense.

Which Doctor? Anyone can, and many do simply write this sort of post on mainstream media and everyone comments 'yeah' and upvotes or 'likes' it....I will tell you the first thing I thought when I read your comment. No mention of deaths that are attributed to diarrhoea which kills over 2000 kids every day (google the actuality of that, there are many, many sites will confirm, and its commission from your list suggests that the list is a manufactured list.
The problem with Covid is that its a virus, a huge proportion of death causes on your list have huge environmental factors which are already being controlled to a certain extent! Covid has environmental factors but much more difficult to control, that's why we need to get a grip on it now or it could simply spiral out of control and become an 'end of humanity' event. Virus' mutate and adapt and we can't allow this to happen and for it to become more dangerous and infectious.

Going back to Diarrhea, the deaths are mainly in impoverished third world countries and no one in the wealthy west actually give enough of a fuck to fix the problem. The 'conspiracy' behind the current Covid-19 pandemic is that its killing people in wealthy 1st world countries, hence the motivation to throw everything they have to fix the issue.

I'm neither saying that the list is accurate... it could be manufactured too, nor am I saying that covid-19 is fake. What I'm trying to convey is there could be a hidden motive behind hyping up a disease that has very low mortality rate compared to so many other diseases that are already killing people by the millions. What's been happening seems so unreal. Looking at the recovery rate, end of humanity seems very far.

The 'conspiracy' behind the current Covid-19 pandemic is that its killing people in wealthy 1st world countries, hence the motivation to throw everything they have to fix the issue.

Possible.

I think the issue is that it has the potential to kill millions if left unchecked is the main issue.
There may be hidden motives for hyping it up, but people dying by the thousands in 1st world countries isn't exactly a vote winner!
Thanks for replying and stay safe and sane mate :-)

The 'conspiracy' behind the current Covid-19 pandemic is that its killing people in wealthy 1st world countries, hence the motivation to throw everything they have to fix the issue.

Very interesting and thought provoking point.