DTube 0.8: The grand upgrade is finally here. DTV, DTalk, VIP system, etc

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This post is one of the most informative that I have seen related to DTube and related services. I believe the topics you bring up are of greater importance toward the growth of Steemit and its user base than any other application or interface seen as of yet. Very nice blog.

I would sincerely hope that requests to silence content which is being demonetized and/or banned on another video site would not be taken down on DTube. That is, if we can attract said users.

Nice said. This is the beauty of blockchain. I believe dtube can grow big because of the transparency!

Yes, this are great news!

Yea. I guess they were updating lately, that caused some uploading problems. Now should be fine.

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Except that I can no see my VIDEOS on Dtube and my wallet on Dtube says $204 while my Steemit wallet says $198 right now and I do not know what that is about.

nice upgrade

Hi bro this my first dtube video chack please

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Hi bro this my first dtube video chack please

https://steemit.com/onelovedtube/@ahmanik/rsgpx1r2

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Hi bro this my first dtube video chack please

https://steemit.com/onelovedtube/@ahmanik/rsgpx1r2

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Hi bro this my first dtube video chack please

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YouTube, DMCA, Sony, CBS, destroyed thousands of my OJAWALL videos in 2017.

 6 years ago (edited) Reveal Comment

DMCA and illegal actions / promoting illegal actions should be the ONLY things that get taken down.

When the law itself becomes the abuse, DMCA will be the problem. See The Nuremberg Trials.

  • I was under orders
  • I was just enforcing the law
  • name your legal poison

you sir just won a godwin point clap clap

UPvoted and followed for that kind of comment mate! Excellent! 🙃

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Honestly I am very impressed with how you share with others with your help they can get something they never expected.
And I always help you post next from you mr. @done
Thank you for what you have done for us

You may want to consider flagging as a pre-filter for content that comes up as high risk in your DMCA identification server. ..with an option to appeal ofcourse..That way user is disincentivzed to initiate such events.

Flag.s on Steemit are most times used to punish users for speaking out and they fundamentally demonetizing the user for months at a time. This is the sad reality. They often become tit for tat never ending vengeful tools. Not the answer.

Steemit investors do well when it comes to identifying copy/paste blogs. I do not see a problem with us doing the same for video content.

Ideally, the one that comes up with a decentralized solution will win. I have never heard of a blockchain currency having to undo a transactions based on a DMCA or any other illegal activity. Once a line is drawn and the possibility exists to take down anything, there is room for abuse.

Very well explained about flag issue. Well done @done

yeah, but as soon as the first flag is made that has a serious impact against the creator... you can't just unflag and get the steem. A vote is a vote, and if a bot starts flagging people unjustly while it is reputable, then that will have serious ramifications for upcoming users..

you can always remove the flag , no?

Yes, but the flag would still be registered on the blockchain, its permanent regardless of what the actions are in the frontend (after flagging).

I am not sure if I follow you , in my understanding whatever damage a flag causes can be undone as soon as it is removed...

am I wrong ?

I openly understand the use of dtube.
Please upvote me

Regardless of DCMA, some content like mine (DJ Mixes) clearly fall under "fair use". Anyone can use copyright content as long as it's altered (Remix videos/Full mixes) and doesn't hurt the market (Free DJ promotion). DCMA has hurt legit independent DJ's the most.

Fair use isn't that simple. It's possible in some circumstances to change very little and still be able to win a fair use defense, and in other circumstances to change a lot and still be found to have infringed the copyright. I encourage you to study how it actually works, and maybe ask a copyright attorney. In fact, I happen to know of Leonard French, an attorney who talks a lot about copyright (including fair use) and other topics, as well as various cases in the news, on his YouTube channel.

That said, the DMCA is being abused a lot. Something needs to be done to stop that abuse. Lenz v Universal was a step in the right direction, but I don't think it actually did as much as it could have. It's even worse when people make DMCA claims that are completely invalid, as e.g. someone did sometime back to Imagos Softworks and quite a number of their fans. At least they got a positive resolution, but a lot of damage was already done.

I am against too much federal, corporate, technological, religious, political, cultural, centralized, financial, tyranny, control, suppression, and YouTube removed thousands of my home videos I made on my OJAWALL Chanel, videos I made when I was ten years old with family and friends with no background music. Just little kids running around having fun. Gone.

I wanna ask to be sure. After this update my videos don't gonna disappear over a time? Put in my work will gonna be available forever? :D

if you do not use your own IPFS node, then disapear of course... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_ain%27t_no_such_thing_as_a_free_lunch

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" (alternatively, "There is no such thing as a free lunch" or other variants) is a popular adage communicating the idea that it is impossible to get something for nothing. The acronyms TANSTAAFL, TINSTAAFL, and TNSTAAFL are also used. The phrase was in use by the 1930s, but its first appearance is unknown. The "free lunch" in the saying refers to the nineteenth-century practice in American bars of offering a "free lunch" in order to entice drinking customers.

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Hi dude. @exnihilo.witness is ready to run a IPFS nodes if needed.
By the way, good job Auvergne, as usual.

Why not use a system similar to STORJ for distributed hosting of video files? This would distribute the load while also solving any redundancy issues. Uploaders could contract with storage nodes on chain for the space and bandwidth usage. Give uploaders control over the level of redundancy as well, which would reflect in the cost of the contract. You could have both short term contracts as well as long term archive type contracts or whatever you want to call them. I think it would be a bad idea to limit something like that to steem witnesses though... it would be a bottleneck for one, but it also wouldn't be very pro-decentralization if you catch my meaning. I've got a large file server on a fiber line just sitting idle waiting for the right decentralized storage network to come along. Storage is cheap... if you create the right inventive people will support it.

Great ideas.

Hey,
talking about running an IPFS node: currently it looks like my local DHT hardly contains any hash from the DTube peer. Is it possible that you could make the peer ID of the D.Tube Peer (or several if you have it) public? So far I have not found a way to get them and so it is often the case that I could not find a single peer via ipfs dht findprovs here in Germany and therefore the operation of an own node has hardly any sense. The peer ID can be entered as bootstrap peer, so this would certainly be a good step to get more people to run a local peer.
Thxalot,
JanSe

Did you ever get an answer to this?
I'm trying to setup a small ipfs node to "auto pin" videos and related assets that I upload to d.tube.

Hi @magali,
currently, D.Tube no longer uses its own IPFS node (as you can read here, they now have their own solution). Back then, they all re-initialized the nodes regularly (so there is no unique peer ID). If you now want to pin videos again (but they are no longer streamed via D.Tube), then download the video first using wget and then add it normally with your node.
Big f_cking Edit: Since when do they use IPFS again?!! 😮 Can they make up their minds? Seems to be running IPFS again now, but I think the problem will still exist, but I will stay on it.
Thxalot,
JanSe

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Our end goal for storage is to have every file available on IPFS / WebTorrent / DAT for a pretty long amount of time on our servers (which mostly will depend on our budget for infrastructure, something that is hard to foresee today), but we will need our users to use either a desktop or a mobile application running at least one of those 3 techs to keep old and inactive videos online.

I know you guys have been banging on this problem for a while now, so I'm pretty sure you considered decentralized storage solutions with their own internal currency solution for hosting like Sia or Filecoin.

It would be interesting to hear your reasons for going with Ceph over a more decentralized solution. Are the blockchain-based storage solutions just not up to the amount of traffic that DTube can/will produce or…?

Another solution would be to incentivize Steem witnesses to run IPFS nodes and pay them proportionally to their used storage, but I don't see how that'd work.

This bit in particular is why I inquire about coin-supported storage solutions, since they are effectively doing exactly this, albeit on a different blockchain but with people who are specifically engaged and interested in providing distributed storage. It would be really cool if some steem witnesses wanted to provide some extra support for storage in general and used their server capabilities to help do that, but as I understand it they're pretty strapped just providing enough computational and storage power for the steem blockchain as it is. That's why we have multiple kinds of provider for people who are interested in providing different services for pay.

It would be interesting to hear your reasons for going with Ceph over a more decentralized solution. Our the blockchain-based storage solutions just not up to the amount of traffic that DTube can/will produce or…?

Because decentralized storage doesn't mean as a IPFS node hoster you don't want to use an efficient way to store IPFS content.

Because decentralized storage doesn't mean as a IPFS node hoster you don't want to use an efficient way to store IPFS content.

Except that doesn't answer the question at all.

One of the things that the DTube folks have set on a regular basis is that they want to be censorship and access control minimalized, using IPFS as a deliberate choice for moving toward that goal. However, obviously, IPFS isn't up to being that performant in this case, or they wouldn't need to go to an enterprise cluster storage solution.

Since they have stated their desires and that cluster storage is a temporary solution, I assumed that they had looked at other blockchain-based solutions which literally involve incentivizing other people to provide decentralized storage and compared that to the cluster storage option.

Talking about that sort of thing and the trade-offs involved is what I was interested in hearing about, from people who had actually been involved in being elbows deep in solving the problem.

If you need a secondary storage solution for hosting IPFS content, you might as well use that storage solution instead of IPFS if it solves the problem. If it doesn't solve the problem, and there are other systems which purport to solve the problem, and you don't use them – the reasoning around that should be interesting.

Sia and Filecoin (and even Storj) purport to literally solve the problem that DTube has said that they have and I was curious about their analysis of why going with a more traditional cluster storage solution won out. Is it truly a temporary measure until they finish assessing more decentralized solutions? Is it considered a midpoint solution, acting as a storage buffer between front end users and more decentralized, less attackable storage architectures on the backend? This is good stuff to know for other people who might be interested in building digital applications which interact with the steem blockchain and require their own storage capacity.

It'd be nice to know what someone who knows something about it has to say.

You people went waaaay to deep, i just want the answer about Decentralised solution vs Ceph too @heimindanger

Brings into question whether or not they truly want to decentralize it. Think about it... how do you decentralize information while retaining centralized like control in order to abide by DMCA's? Or blanket ban Alex Jones? Now that doesn't mean this content can't be distributed. If I understand correctly, anyone can already download any video and re-host it themselves out of the kindness of their heart. There's no monetary incentive for this however, and it has to be done manually. So it would appear that all that's really needed would be a platform to monetize and automate this while retaining the ability to remove content to satisfy DMCA's, or whatever else someone doesn't like. You wouldn't actually need to incorporate any of the existing decentralized applications, and there wouldn't really be a need for encryption since the files are publicly available anyway. In the end though, none of these types of platforms will truly be decentralized because well... people just simply aren't ready to accept the consequences of decentralization yet. You know, I find it ironic that we've practically banned freedom of speech because of our intolerance, yet we continue to do things like pay taxes and suck down fluoride without question. Really makes you wonder who's actually in control.

Brings into question whether or not they truly want to decentralize it.

I'm not quite enough obsessed with conspiracies to ask that question. Especially since given a fair amount of experience with large projects and the necessity of making certain concessions in order to get a project working at all, much less how you want it to work, I've been there.

There are certainly ways to have decentralized file storage and be compatible with the DMCA and have some degree of control of content visibility – and the secret is just that, visibility. Whether things are visible to a user is an entirely different thing to whether or not it's being stored in a distributed manner. In fact, these are orthogonal things; they have nothing to do with one another.

I think people are perfectly ready to deal with the results of decentralization and in fact are eager for the effects of decentralization, and in fact really want the results of decentralization, especially when it comes to distribution of file storage on the backend of a database, which is what we're talking about.

But, like I said, I'm not about to take up conspiracy when a perfectly reasonable, logical, and sensible explanation which doesn't require hidden motives is clearly available.

You can continue to see secret lizards under every face, but that doesn't change the mechanics of the world.

Having witnesses to host IPFS servers is brilliant!

So far I have not seen a witness offering that (I have not been too much involved in steem it lately, though)

Other important thing is that DTube should inform creators on how to host their own content in their own IPFS nodes. That way, they have their own backup(s) and ensure their content is more available. Perhaps writing a guide that helps them set up a IPFS node and pin their content.

Amazing update! Made a YouTube video about it telling the old Tubers about it! :D

I rank fast haha :D

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Keep it up DTube team!

DTalk doesn't really work, does it? Published my key to steem, then nothing. blank screen

When I click the red button in Firefox nothing happens at all

it worked in chrome, but yeah... nothing after

Excellent! I look forward to trying this out. Open sourcing the code is exciting since it might really accelerate the development of the project - maybe the world can join forces to topple Youtube? :)
I have had a lot of problems getting uploads to work properly with Firefox in the previous version of DTube, so I'll see if something has fixed that.

This is wonderful! I'm sure it wouldn't take too long before most of Youtubers switch to Dtube. I'm already seeing many yotube vloggers switching to Decentralized platform like Dtube. So this is perfect opportunity for all!

Delegators Thanksgiving Thursday it is! Thank you for delegating some SP to us, we have upvoted your post with 100%

That moment when you realise several Steem DApps have built more and are being used by more people than numerous shitcoins avove STEEM in market cap.

Great update! One of the few posts that I will share outside of the Steem bubble.

 6 years ago  Reveal Comment

It works!!! streaming my first live stream on DTUBE!!!
https://steemit.com/gaming/@rival/36ofnk71

Retro unreal tournament gaming!!!

Great work @dtube team! If anyone wants to know how to set up the live stream its here:



If anyone wants a fun logo to put on their streams:


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Holy fucking hell, ill have to make sure to take a solid look at this.

There's a lot there - its a good read.

It's amazing, everything people said about @dtube in @dcooperation is true, DTUBE IS THE BEST :


Hey @heimindanger, DTube is now available on OBS! For 3 million downloads per month! I tought you would like that. A little publicity and convenience does not hurt! ;-)

Sweet. Author of notabug.io here.

I've not built any sort of messaging yet, but it's something I'd like to support and I see no reason to reinvent the wheel. Ideally we could eventually have chat interoperate between notabug and d.tube

Is the dtalk code isolated in a way I could adopt it into another site/project easily?

 6 years ago  Reveal Comment

A friend of mine recently introduced me to Dtube. I look forward to seeing how the platform develops.

I was just beginning to wonder what's happening with DTube and after reading this update all I can say is wow! You guys have been busy bees and it's so great to see as we desperately need alternatives for youtube as it becomes controlled more and more by the interests of big companies.

It seems you're pushing DTube to the right direction with mind and heart in the right place.

And for everyone else reading this, DTube distributes additional curator rewards so it's more worthwhile to curate content specially from DTube!

Instead of simply stopping to collect these beneficiary rewards like most other apps, we have decided to fully redistribute it to curators instead. This happens through the @dtube.rewards account that was created and started operating recently.

And content creators might find themselves receiving a big upvote from DTube curators so what you're waiting for, make DTube part of your time spent on Steem ecosystem if it isn't already or you're missing out.

Thank you very much for the update. I look forward to seeing how well uploaded and playbacks work! That's really the main thing for me - being able to upload, and being able to play the video back.
I've been using DTube for a year now, with greatly varied success over the months! Sometimes, it was completely down for weeks on end. And other times, like right now, I'm uploading at least once a week, and playback is flawless. Thanks!

Hi, my DCR Tools (StreamLabs like app) works for comments, tips and upvotes nottifications on Dtube livestreams (with overlay windows for OBS):

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Here is the link: https://zygmunt.pro/apps/dcr

Just put Your nickname, set settings, copy links to OBS and You are ready. No registering or login in :)

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Thanks for the shoutout. Looking forward to trying the new update!

So many big changes in here.

No doubt that each one of the new changes is essential for the Growing of DTube, The Bockchain and Dtubers,

Having the possibility to Stream in DTube is just like heaven for many of us so loyal to the Platform.

All the rest of the changes and news team is Evolution and for that ... Cheers!

Great, thanks for this platform, and thanks everyone for putting your time and dedication into making this great replacement for now outdated youtube. Hail decentralization!

Fantastic job @heimindanger. Only a question: is there a chat with DTV?

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Way to go. These developments are really cool. Nice work. Looking forward to trying out the streaming

Wow! Great job @heimindanger so full of great information and updates! upped and resteemed to keep coming back to! 👍✌😎

This is an amazing update @heimindanger and @dtube team. The collaboration across multiple Steem applications is extra exciting as well. You're really setting a precedent here by tapping into the open-source network and innovation this blockchain can / and is cultivating.

We're longtime users of d.tube and can't wait to take Version 0.8 out for a ride.

Also, that thumbnail and those graphics look extra nice ;)

I really need to get on Dtube. I feel like I am missing out. Someone told me that videos are not accesable after a week. is that true

Great job. Whenever I see an update for a platform I like, I get super excited.

Thank you for your support with the dtube account.

For livestreaming, can you confirm that this works on mobile/android devices? I tried livestreaming with DLive in the past and it didn't work on my android phone. Have you tested to see if it works?

Thanks

Best job DTube team!
This post is featured on today's Joy News (in Chinese :D)


good job

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Steemit you gain STEEM and STEEM Dollars. You would then be able to money out these two monetary standards or utilize STEEM to influence up your record to have more. You can exchange both STEEM and SBD on a digital currency trade for Bitcoins which you would then be able to exchange for cash at specific trades.

Amazing update @heimindanger, thanks for sharing! 👏👍

The biggest upgrade here ! Live streaming is the best thing in 0.8 great job !

Well there are a lot of changes , but Dtalk and the new onboarding system are my the favourite things in the 0.8

Damn, watch out DLive, DTube is coming for you :P #Livestream

I've been following DTube since the begin. The platform have been take great development since that inauguration post. Now just more one step forward. Great! ;D

Yay! I love the addition of Notifications.

#heimindanger (67)

I know about dtube But it has not yet become known to everyone. Yes, but it is a platform platform like UTO It's a lot easier to rule. I'm happy now. For more ..

Do you know better details of it ?????
If you tell me a little?

upvote nd leave the comment nd fallow me @ksrinu445

Ok.................you back ME

Great for the open source projects!!!
👍👍👍

@heimindanger
Thats the best point of your video Youtube doesnt care , they do not talk etc.
But why I dont know, i mean its one of the biggest things of internet.

please, i need know something

hi
dtube votes if i make a video and speak using portuguese language??? Or ir jus upvote with english language?? Can someone answer me?

so, i have more chance if i talk in english???? I can try, but, i am not proficienty in english :(

thank you

nice topic dear, you explain very good

I hope someone can help me, if i upload a video to dtube the 3 steps wont show up and there's no submit button at the bottom. I can upload, set snapshot, edit title, description and tags. But i can't submit. I've tryed different browsers. What am i doing wrong.
Thx.
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Thank you for this update.

You got a 39.94% upvote from @postpromoter courtesy of @heimindanger!

Want to promote your posts too? Check out the Steem Bot Tracker website for more info. If you would like to support the development of @postpromoter and the bot tracker please vote for @yabapmatt for witness!

So... am I understanding this post correctly to mean that videos won't "disappear" anymore? I've tried looking at some older videos for @ketoconnect and they won't load.

Might be a good idea to do a new post describing your existing infrastructure, etc, for content creators fleeing @dlive.

Wonderful! I love seeing the amazing improvements that are happening on the blockchain. Thank you. Be well.

Wow! You guys have been busy!

That's all super exciting! I'm stoked about DTalk!

Thanks for all that you do!

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