The question of the week is back with another thought provoking question! I have met quite a few really nice people over my life that have told me that they will never have kids. When i asked them why they told me that they don't want to bring children into this world because it is cruel and because of the general state of the things. My initial reaction to this was to say " That is a shame", because it seemed sensible to me that the best people to have children are those that are good healthy and balanced people. They would, in theory, make good children and that may even help things to improve. With that being said, i am still wondering if there is some wisdom to their thinking.
So i am very curious what you all think, and also if there are any correlations to nationality, age, wealth and so on. Is it just poor people who think like this, or is it mostly people from the developed world? Do you think having a lot more young people in the world is going to be a boost or a drain on our society? Do we even have enough housing to accommodate them, and if so is there even enough money in the system to allow them to make such a huge purchase. There are so many different things you can look at with this question, and as always im happy to hear your unique perspectives.
This question is open to all, and can be in the form of a post, video, or whatever way you would like to express yourself. Im sure any budding artists out there could come up with a cool cartoon sketch to illustrate the issue. Oh if only @stillgideon was posting, he could do a great job on that! Maybe ill try to resurrect him! ;-)
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"Do you think it a good or bad idea to bring children into this world in these troubled times?"
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Hey guys,
I'm so psyched that the QOTW is back. At the same time I feel a bit bad for presenting such a gloomy view as in the post I wrote in answering the question:
https://steempeak.com/ecotrain/@stortebeker/having-children-in-tough-times-a-dark-perspective
Though once I was done typing it, I read it, re-read it, slept on it before reading it once more, and though I still feel bad about not matching the same hopeful and positive attitude that I felt in most of your answers, I don't want to change what I've written, because it reflects how I feel (at this moment, I must add).
Im glad ur keeping it real, were not about just rainbows.. whatever u feel is totally welcome and worth sharing. Ill be reading it soon!
Oh wow Alex, that is a question alright!!!
I was in that positiin once long ago.... didn't really want to bring any new humans into this place we had made a shit hile out of.
But I'll tell ypu I am glad and very happy that my mind changed on that issue...and it was basically what you just said about nice people, in theory making nice people that changed my mind! And also the fact that I realized I wouldn't have to stop traveling once I had a little one or two... thanks to my traveler family!
We need more of this kind of thing.
Challenging, but an interesting topic. Going to be pretty tough to answer but here everyone have their own perception...so good to share mine as well...will do contribute to this👍
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It's too late for me. I have two children aged 7 (boy) and 9 (girl) and I worry constantly about what the future holds for them. My girlfriend (of 20+ years) and I are trying our best to raise them so that they can be part of the solution to the problems faced on earth rather than part of the problem, but it's hard. Everything around them is seemingly designed to ensure that they do not develop the skills needed to change the world but rather become a cog in the system that they are taught to accept and never question. Now that I have had children and experienced the joy that comes with it, I would never change it even if I could but there are days when I feel helpless when I look around and see the society gradually decay around me.
It's easier to accept it all if you don't look into any of it of course and perhaps that is the mistake I made. I managed to make it to about 30 years old before I started to question the things I had always unquestionably believed to be true and ironically, I think it was the birth of my first child that started my on the path I am now on which means that I can no longer be blissfully ignorant of the way the world works.
Ultimately I suppose, it comes down to whether you believe humanity has a chance of rising above everything and raising it's consciousness to the point where enough people can see through the lies and illusion to be able to make the changes necessary. Ignorance is the main thing that is stopping humanity from reaching it's true potential in my opinion and the entire system from my perspective has been built to ensure that the majority remain ignorant. My children still go so state school which makes me a fool but we plan to start home schooling them before they go to secondary school so hopefully it isn't too late.
You talk about whether there will be enough housing or money for children to make purchases but money itself is a construct and is one of the main ways in which humanity is enslaved. They don't teach children about fractional reserve banking or how the world really works because if they did, as Henry Ford suggested, there would be a revolution by the morning (or something like that). For things to improve, children need to be taught the truth about the money system, how governments are not good but evil, how all the wars are bankers wars, that joining the armed forces is not something to be proud of but rather ashamed and that poverty in Africa and elsewhere exists because those that have the power and resources to end it choose not to.
They are never going to be taught the truth about the world in state schools and since most parents were educated in state schools they are unlikely to be taught it by their parents so this is the dilemma we face in my opinion. I'm not sure if I answered your question to be honest but I always feel better after venting in textual form ;-)
I only just noticed that you asked for people to actually do a post in reply but as I've already written this here I will leave it.
I watched the video you did the other day on world forest day and I was in awe of what you have built for yourself. I hope to be able to do something similar with my family one day if I ever get out of the debt trap and found the determination and drive that you obviously have to have been able to do what you have done.
Great job !
a very special 'comment', you could certainly post it as well;-) thank you for sharing this.,i feel you! an understand all of what you say!
the trick was really doing it in india, i could have never afforded to do this in Europe!@ l;-)
My girlfriend and I spent four months travelling around India quite a few years ago (before the kids came along) including the south (where I think you live). Although it was hard at times it still remains one of the best and most memorable places we have visited and the Indian people were fantastic.
amen ;-)
I love this. Totally hear you on this.
Having all sorts of difficulties with my daughter and her school. The school and the teachers are actually quite good, let down by the curriculum they have to teach to. Having said that, everyone has identified that she is essentially a genius, an artist, and existing on a seriously different level to most of us, and adapting things so that her talent shines through. It has come down to trying to fit the curriculum to her, rather than fitting her into the curriculum.
So there is hope, and it seems like those involved in state school education get it!!
I don't agree with that thinking.
I believe Children are not the problem and will not escalate the problem but rather looking at it in a positive sense, we cannot change the present but through these young ones we can change the future. Change can be achieved finally if the children we bring into the World don't end up thinking and behaving like us. If we can change the mindset of these children and set perfect examples for them, then we stand a chance to produce a generation that can make the World a much better place.
Children are the future and we can make these kids enjoy a better world in the near future than what we have now by showing them the right path. Refusing to bring Children into a cruel world is a sign of giving up and an act that demonstrates hopelessness. With these kids, our World still has hope if you ask me. It all depends on what we bring them up to be.
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A great question, i look forward to answering this on Alex x
My anwser is No we gotta make the world better becose its not good to live in these times its suicidal touts we have to winn first becose the smarter they will be not rewarded for good work they will nit be happy and life with out happynes makes you dangerous they are afraid of uss to unite once and for all wee need a shift!!!
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I love this question. It would make an interesting read for me, for sure!
Check my Answer with Dtube Vlog-
https://steemit.com/dtube/@hafizullah/0ocvvm0i
I didn't want to overthink this one, know I'll second guess it as usual when I read everyone's brilliant posts, @eco-alex, but kinda think it's better to trust myself. Amazing how this really fits into the TSU one this week about order/chaos and systems theories - going on SO many tangents in my head, could easily write ten posts on this topic.
https://steempeak.com/@riverflows/havingchildrenintroubledtimesshouldwehavethematall-mv37mxuwwu
Well, I think this is perfect question for the current time and I am feeling interested to participate this time.
Of course a bad idea!
Children are climate killers! 😂
Totally, tjey shoud be banned really
Ouch!
Going straight for the jugular with this one ... 😬
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I have been known to do that ;)
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Name let's let humans go extinct is the real answer to the question. That's the direction of someone asking this.
Now how about asking real questions?
It is not the fault of the question if someone can't see more than one answer to it. Fortunately that is not the case for everyone.
Well absolutely let's just not have any children at all. And this question is by definition already answered because you know what's going to happen if no children are born
Hi @eco-alex - just posted my take on the question. Hope #ecoTrain passengers, drivers and conductors find it useful and interesting. Copying the link here:
https://steemit.com/exotrain/@bewithbreath/ecotrain-question-of-the-week-do-you-think-it-a-good-or-bad-idea-to-bring-children-into-this-world-in-these-troubled-times
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Hello Eco-Alex,
Here is my entry :
https://steemit.com/ecotrain/@vibesforlife/do-you-think-it-a-good-or-bad-idea-to-bring-children-into-this-world-in-these-troubled-times
This has been an interesting one to read the responses on already. It could open a real can of worms and even venture into eugenics. I've avoided that route myself, but probably wasn't as eloquent as others.
https://steemit.com/ecotrain/@minismallholding/to-breed-or-not-to-breedecotrain-qotw-4xecja0f
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My humble and considered contribution: https://steempeak.com/ecotrain/@artemislives/the-mandate-to-raise-children-who-can-repair-and-restore-evolving-young-people-to-heal-mother-earth
OK.
Here's mine.... https://steempeak.com/ecotrain/@metametheus/children-are-our-future
Interesting topic. And actually quite poignant in context of other discussions I've been having during the week, and the hexagram from the I Ching that I've been translating and contemplating this week....
Thanks for the thought provoking question. Here is the post I made to contemplate it.
https://steemit.com/ecotrain/@vander/ecotrain-qotwdo-you-think-it-a-good-or-bad-idea-to-bring-children-into-this-world-in-these-troubled-times-l2zyw84t
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I actually disagree that the premise that these times are troubled. Sure, they are a little, but when weren't they? There were certainly worse times to be alive.
That said, I'm 40 and childless, and I have no desire to have children. It's not because the world sucks, though.
There were so many ways I could have responded, each entirely different than the next. This was a tough question! https://steemit.com/ecotrain/@walkerland/raising-children-in-troubled-times
Hey @eco-alex Here is my viewpoint on the question.
https://steemit.com/ecotrain/@steemflow/ecotrain-qotw-do-you-think-it-a-good-or-bad-idea-to-bring-children-into-this-world-in-these-troubled-times
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Funny I had just been listening to a discussion on this topic and I'm interested in seeing what other steemians have to say. My reply is at: https://steemit.com/ecotrain/@porters/the-question-whether-to-have-kids-when-the-world-is-in-such-troubled-times-has-been-posed-ecotrains-qotw
such a great question, here is my answer
https://steemit.com/ecotrain/@trucklife-family/do-you-think-it-a-good-or-bad-idea-to-bring-children-into-this-world-in-these-troubled-times-ecotrain-question-of-the-week
In the nick of time?
https://steempeak.com/ecotrain/@thistle-rock/ecotrain-s-question-of-the-week-do-you-think-it-a-good-or-bad-idea-to-bring-children-into-this-world-in-these-troubled-times
Yes! Ill be reading and tie up today or tomorrow..